Has anyone had... Colour query!

[katastrophykat]

A dun (born bright dun) foal turn black??

Dam v dark bay- her dam was v dark bay, sire black.

Sire cremello homozygous AA- his sire palomino, assume dam was cremello.

Gene calculator says not possible, my bets are on chocolate dun however it's coming through very very dark. No pics I'm afraid, not my foal

There's no chance of smoky black at all is there?

 

[Love]

Not sure if smoky black is possible but if it is, the foal will just look black as the cream gene only effects black pigment when it's doubley diluted (2 copies making it smokey cream rather than smokey black with just one).

Hope that makes sense? What I'm trying to say is that if it is smokey black it could well just look black but again my sure if its possible. Hopefully someone more knowledgable will be along

 

[Dogrose]

If the sire is AA he is homozygous bay or brown plus double cream. The foal can only be smoky brown or buckskin, not dun or smoky black.

 

[texas]

Hi, visually yes

Born light buckskin, then on his foal moult turned almost black - I say almost because I could just about see where the black legs ended and very very very dark brown body started, but it wasn't obvious without close inspection or knowing the genetic possibilities. I think anyone else would have called him liver chestnut, bay or black but I knew that with a black sire and perlino dam and with dark points he had to be buckskin however odd the shade. In his yearling year he moulted out to a dark/golden/smokey buckskin colour. Still goes lighter in the winter and darker in the summer.

 

[Meowy Catkin]

Not a chance of a Dun as there's no dun gene involved.

Don't forget that Sooty can put black pigment back in the coat.

 

[katastrophykat]

Thank you