Have I lost the plot somewhere?

[Littlepowderkeg]

My horse has been in isolation for nearly two weeks, during an outbreak where 7 horses have been infected. She is also the biggest horse on the yard standing at 17.3hh. It was suggested to the YO that perhaps we should have isolation padocks where the infected horses can be tunred out for an hour a day. Well, all the horses have been allowed out except mine, who apparently can't go out in the field as she is too big!!??

Right, so for her to stand in a 12x12 box for 24/7 is perfectly acceptable and she is not too big for that then? the paddock is about 1/2 acre incidentally.

Have I lost the plot somewhere along the line?? this post isn't a whinge, or blaming anyone just me wondering what on earth the rationale is???

 

[ThePony]

Hum, think I might be having myself a bit of a strop about that!!

What is she in isolation for? If they actually need to be isolated from each other, then what about reaching over the fences to each other? Or do they just have a small period out with no others? Either way I think I would be after getting some turnout. Can you turn her out supervised in your school for a bit each day so she gets a leg stretch?

I would just have a straight up calm chat with your yo and see what you can sort out for your mare, doesn't seem v fair to me so far tbh.

 

[Ladylina83]

That doesn't seem very fair at all - I bet she could do with a roll!!

although I have to say if mine werein isolation with a suspected illness rather than a confirmed one I wouldn't want them using the same paddock as the confirmed cases - I take it she has be diagnosed tho. how long does she need to stay in for ?

 

[Littlepowderkeg]

The pony - I have to say I am EXTREMELY unhappy with things as they are and indeed I did throw a strop - my friend locked me in the stable whilst I did so! further made worse by me witnessing my mare being hit over the stable door... I do have, shall we say, "other plans" and certainly wont be staying there for very long.
It just never ceases to amaze me some of the C*** you hear in the horse world sometimes! they are all being turned out seperately to no contact with other horses is possible, and nothing will be going in the paddock once clear.
I am just wondering how anyone can say that they act "for the horse" when clearly they don't even undertand the basic needs of a horse.

 

[AmyMay]

Just turn it out.

 

[Charliepony]

That's ridiculous! What are they in isolation for?

 

[Damnation]

As AmyMay says, just turn her out.

 

[Thatsmyboy]

There are always two sides to a story!!!

 

[AmyMay]

There are always two sides to a story!!!

Ah, so what's your story????

 

[libertylou]

As AmyMay says, just turn her out.

I agree!!! Just turn her out!

 

[Ellies_mum2]

Just turn it out.

I agree with this. If the paddock is 1/2 an acre then that is plenty enough for her to stretch her legs



So what is the other side to this story then Thatsmyboy?

 

[caitlin95uk]

So what is the other side to this story then Thatsmyboy?

This^
I'm also curious...

 

[Rachel34]

This post is quite amusing. Considering it was the horse that actually bought ringworm to the yard and trys to attack you and your horse when you walk past the stable - we are quite pleased they are vacating! Having your horse in the stable in this weather is not such a bad thing - if you actually rode it every day and came and gave it a brush. I just feel the post is very misleading! Horses need care and affection and riding and maybe if this was happening this horse would not try attacking everyone and not have a really bad stable vice! Why do people have horses if they are not prepared to treat them like one of the family!

 

[AmyMay]

A horse with ringworm does not need to be stabled 24/7 - just treated.

So if there is an isolation paddock it can be quite simply turned out there.

Presumably the horse is on full livery if the owner is not in attendance daily.

 

[Rachel34]

Ringworm is infectious and yes once treated horses can be turned out but if you want to minimise the risk of someone elses horse getting it then they are better to be isolated - vets advice not Horse and hound forum!. Personally I dont want my horse to get it. I compete on a regular basis and look after my horse so do not see why I should not continue to do this. I have disinfected my stable on a regular basis to minimise risk.

Full livery - um No mucked out by a friend! Horses can be ridden with ringworm as long as its not on the saddle area and also can be lunged - this has not happened for the whole 2 weeks. I am sorry but its hard to comment on something when you are not physically on the yard

 

[Ellies_mum2]

A horse with ringworm does not need to be stabled 24/7 - just treated.

So if there is an isolation paddock it can be quite simply turned out there.

Presumably the horse is on full livery if the owner is not in attendance daily.

^^ this


There is clearly a lot more to this story than is being told on here if 2 new people have registered and their first posts are on this thread

 

[AmyMay]

Ringworm is infectious and yes once treated horses can be turned out but if you want to minimise the risk of someone elses horse getting it then they are better to be isolated - vets advice not Horse and hound forum!. Personally I dont want my horse to get it. I compete on a regular basis and look after my horse so do not see why I should not continue to do this. I have disinfected my stable on a regular basis to minimise risk.

Full livery - um No mucked out by a friend! Horses can be ridden with ringworm as long as its not on the saddle area and also can be lunged - this has not happened for the whole 2 weeks. I am sorry but its hard to comment on something when you are not physically on the yard

I've never known a horse kept in because of ringworm - isolated yes, confined no. It's not ill.

Your horse will only catch if by comming in direct contact with the horse or it's immediate surroundings, or handled by someone who has contact with the horse but not cleansed afterwards.

As for the 'friend' mucking the horse out - presumably they have an arrangement, and the horse is being cared for.

However, like all these situation. If there is a general concern about the welfare of an animal the first port of call is the Yard Owner - who as a responsible and professional manager will affect a change or reasure you that all is well.

Lots of politicing going on here, with machinations behind the scenes. But bottom line is horse should be and can be turned out (in isolation).

P.s - Ringworm is not an indicator of a horse not being looked after properly.

 

[Rachel34]

I was a member before this post - so not in my case. As said before its hard to comment if not on yard. There is not an isolation paddock of 1/2 acre - a small area which as you can imagine is v muddy this time of year and I would rather ride my horse if it was in isolation. Horses are turned out in herds so unfair for everyone else. Agree horse is not ill withn ringworm,but not fair on other horses or owners. If it was my horse I would be happy to keep it in, like the other 3 on the yard who have had it but they have ridden their horse and not all of them have had opportunity to go in the tiny paddock. YO very concerned hence the horse moving out this weekend. Horse kicks out at people and other horses so only owner who can turnout, ride etc and as said before this does not happen.

I am not stupid I know ringworm is not a sign of a horse not being looked after but when the owner justs thinks its a change in hair on the horse rather than a skin condition ..... say no more

As I said b4 hard to comment unless you know both sides and I am not taking sides but it annoys me when people are commenting on a story that is not completely true. I love my horse and care for him and this poor horse just needs some love and affection

 

[AmyMay]

As I said b4 hard to comment unless you know both sides and I am not taking sides but it annoys me when people are commenting on a story that is not completely true.

True, perhaps it is hard to comment - but I suppose that is the danger of a forum. And clearly you are 'taking' sides as it were, otherwise you in turn wouldn't be commenting as you are.

There is not an isolation paddock of 1/2 acre - a small area which as you can imagine is v muddy this time of year and I would rather ride my horse if it was in isolation

Confused - there is an isolation paddock or there isn't??? If there is, mud or not - no reason not to pop out for a few hours with hay.

Agree horse is not ill withn ringworm,but not fair on other horses or owners.

I can't see what possible repuercussions it has on other owners or horses as long as people take sensible precautions.

 

[Rachel34]

Not taking sides but as said you are not on yard! Paddock is not a paddock and does not have fencing to accommodate a 17hh+ so no its not an isolation paddock dangerous if horse runs round etc - horses are not turned out there - sorry hard to explain unless you can see it - the owner assumed it was an isolation paddock but if you are only at the yard once a week you miss out on communications.

Other horses can catch it if in contact so thats why unfair on others - I could not turn up to a competition with scabs on my horses nose I would be thrown out!!!!!! Sorry what precautions could you take - stop horses sniffing each other in the field?

 

[AmyMay]

Sorry what precautions could you take - stop horses sniffing each other in the field?

As clearly stated previously - your horse will only catch it if it comes in to direct contact with the contaged horse, its immediate surroundings, or a person who has not cleansed properly after dealing with infected animal..........

 

[Ellies_mum2]

I was a member before this post - so not in my case. As said before its hard to comment if not on yard. There is not an isolation paddock of 1/2 acre - a small area which as you can imagine is v muddy this time of year

My apologies . . just looked at post count rather than joining date

Any turnout is better than none even if it is as you say very muddy. Is it an isolation paddock or not

 

[smellsofhorse]

That is totally unfair.
Tell the yard owner that.
You pay the same money and are entiltled to the same.

 

[mainpower]

The fungal spores can live in woodwork, therefore there is a potential risk if the horse is turned out that other horses using the same paddock could pick ringworm up from the fencing.
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/horsecare/article.php?aid=39758

 

[treacle_beastie]

This post is winding me up. The horse came to the yard with another, both had ringworm but it was not noticeable so fair enough, both turned out in separate herds. Owner of horse suspected horse had hair falling out due to being in poor condition but failed to connect the horses at previous yard having scabby noses as being ringworm. Never mind. Several horses ended up with ringworm, all stabled until treatment finished on vets advice. All owners OK with this. YO kindly turned spare sick paddock into isolation paddock by electric fencing away from wooden fences which made paddock very small but Ok to turn out in whilst mucked out. YO thinking of all horses welfare and did not want them shut in but had no other options than to make isolation paddock. However, as quite a few horses affected and they trashed paddock quickly, YO said if they dont settle down they cant go out as we need the sick paddock for other horses with other issues. Only one horse settled, the others didnt and owners rode, hand walked, hand grazed and got on with it. This owners horse is quite stressy and paces up and down and trashes paddock, 17.3 in a small space doesnt work. Friend who looks after horse hand walked it occasionally but owner rarely comes up to help, groom, hand walk etc etc due to work and other commitments - fair enough BUT if she had an issue with this all she had to do was talk to the YO instead of posting this on HHO and not telling the whole story in the first place to expect answers in her favour - of course you will all say turn it out but it was not practicable and all the other affected horses coped fine (including my little stress monster) and the ringworm touch wood has been contained. Its unfortunate the OP posted on here knowing there were members on here at the same yard. Things get misinterpreted and this may be the case but its now led to the OP leaving the yard which she was very happy to move to but just seemed to fail to tell the YO about her issues or ask for the reasons why. Then to go onto imply the YO did not care for the horses and that the OPs horse was being mistreated was just out of order.

Sorry for the rant but just shows you should be careful what you post on HHO.

 

[Littlepowderkeg]

Ah ha, this is hillarious!! just read all the replies, I know it is nearly a year following the event but I have been very ill and I am going to put my side of the story forward. Just to put the record straight MY horse did NOT bring ringworm into the yard - in fact this yard has had ring worm THREE times in the past. My Vet will quite happily confirm this given that she was THE FIRST horse to be seen my him and had the least amount of associated dermatitus, the rest of the yard and the YO horse waited for nearly a week after my vet had visited, in the meantime I was there everday and disinfected EVERYTHING including the stable wall doors rugs feed bins grooming kits etc. Secondly my horse attacks people is the funiest thing I have ever heard! pmsl!? yes she is stable proud but I told you all that on the first day there, so SIMPLY STAY AWAY and she wont "attack" (read, pull faces for those of you true horsewomen!). IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE.
Thirdly my horse was on a full livery arrangment with my friend, had ample hay feed and bedding, was groomed and walked in hand and lunged by her. Lastly, if you wish to post defamatory comments about me and my horse, the (percieved) lack of care/feed etc then I would quite happily see you in Court! really doesnt bother me at all I shall of course be involving the vet. Statute of Limitation in such areas is 6 years from date of loss, so I have plenty of time to file a claim for the vets fees, given the the YO has obviously incited several people to "fight" on her behalf.

 

[Littlepowderkeg]

Oh and my last work to say is that my Mare has been on the same yard since she moved from the "infected" yard so nearly a year, has been on full livery, and the YO adores her calling her an Angel! So I wonder if it is not the case that if you know what you are doing she is a fabulous mare... if you dont... well... and not a "trashed" paddock in sight!

 

[*hic*]

I'm gobsmacked.

And in answer to your original question, Yes, I really think you have by resurrecting this.