Have you had trouble with antis?

[HHO admin]

Have you been troubled by the antis this season? Noticed that their numbers have increased? H&H is doing a piece on anti activity. Please email news editor Flora Watkins with your experiences. Flora_watkins@ipcmedia.com

Thank you.

 

[Judgemental]

Have you been troubled by the antis this season? Noticed that their numbers have increased? H&H is doing a piece on anti activity. Please email news editor Flora Watkins with your experiences. Flora_watkins@ipcmedia.com

Thank you.

There were two reports in The Western Daily Press yesterday, involving The West Somerset Vale and The Seavington.

In the case of the Seavington, there was also a report in the Daily Mail along with a picture of the fox on the railway line.

In my experience that fox was contrived. In no way had it been hunted and had been let out of a bag or box by the so called monitors.

The convenience of the fox, the railway line and the presence of the photographer was remarkable. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nds-railway-track-following-illegal-hunt.html

That said Flora, clearly you must have the ear of the MFHA.

I have been banging on in the forum for nearly two years concerning Section 8 of the Hunting Act 2004.

The section is copied below.

I have said time and time again, if there is no chance of a repeal, therefore the Act has to be dismantled piece by piece using the Statutory Instrument, built into the act by the Labour Party, in order to tighten the act. Equally it can be used to loosen the act.

The season has hardly begun and there is trouble up and down the country, much of it contrived by Hunt Monitors.

It is encouraging to see that Horse and Hound are quick to recognise what is happening but at the same time you need to tell the MFHA and the Countryside Alliance very robustly to forget their repeal. The Secretary of State simply has to amend the act using the Statutory Instrument.

The Secretary of State can easily remove the word 'not'.

Section 8 the last sentence Item 6 "that a Police Office does not need a warrant". That is the most unjust element and should be changed by Statutory Instrument.

As I have said before, somebody tell me what other legislation allows a Police Officer to enter land or premises etc without a warrant? I am not aware of any.

It is objectionable that a police office can enter kennels without a warrant.

Once that is changed, all these so called Hunt Monitors will have it made very clear to them that the police are not automatically on their side, hunting people will see some movement towards repeal and the police will not be obliged to field so called Hunt Liaison Officers looking for an offence. Any offence has to be brought to the officer in his police station.

8 Search and Seizure

(1)This section applies where a constable reasonably suspects that a person (“the suspect”) is committing or has committed an offence under Part 1 of this Act.

(2)If the constable reasonably believes that evidence of the offence is likely to be found on the suspect, the constable may stop the suspect and search him.

(3)If the constable reasonably believes that evidence of the offence is likely to be found on or in a vehicle, animal or other thing of which the suspect appears to be in possession or control, the constable may stop and search the vehicle, animal or other thing.

(4)A constable may seize and detain a vehicle, animal or other thing if he reasonably believes that—.
(a)it may be used as evidence in criminal proceedings for an offence under Part 1 of this Act, or.
(b)it may be made the subject of an order under section 9.

(5)For the purposes of exercising a power under this section a constable may enter—.

(a)land;.
(b) premises other than a dwelling;.
(c)a vehicle..

(6)The exercise of a power under this section does not require a warrant.

 

[Judgemental]

I will make an additional point.

Section 8 of The Hunting Act 2004 is an open invitation to Hunt Monitors, Sabs, call them what you will to contrive incidents, making it look as if a hunt is hunting illegally.

Trying to get that through to the 'movers and shakers' of hunting is remarkably hard work!

 

[rosie fronfelen]

The RSPCA were seen dumping foxes 3 miles from here next to free range chickens clueless idiots, and how cruel WTF,just last week this was.

 

[Judgemental]

The RSPCA were seen dumping foxes 3 miles from here next to free range chickens clueless idiots, and how cruel WTF,just last week this was.

Rosie same with us. We had a monster fox dumped. Something that had clearly been thriving on town dustbins and grown to abnormal proportions.

This was in the early spring.

His presence was not welcome!

This is in my view is the primary source of foxes that are being released by Antis, Sabs and Hunt Monitors (acting as agent provocateurs) in front of hounds. Thus contriving an incident which purports to be illegal hunting.

Perhaps HM Government would like to legislate against such mischief, using the Statutory Instrument!

Somebody needs to get off their backsides and do something!

 

[Fiagai]

The Antis have clearly started this year with a ridiculous "video" showing hounds running along railway track. The voiceover states that hounds appear "two minutes later" at which point the hounds are clearly not hunting.

The IFAW have headlined this video as the opening salvo of the year (See LINK) Under the heading "Declare your land a Hunt Free Zone" & links this alledged incident to their new campaign of intimidation

http://www.houndsoff.co.uk

where they exort individuals to target their local hunt

The highlight of this website is the irony when they state that:

What do I do if I feel intimidated?"

A: You do not have to tolerate bullying or intimidation in any form. If you believe that someone is targeting you then Hounds Off recommends that you take the following action:

· If you feel in immediate danger and at risk of harm do not hesitate to call 999.

Otherwise:

· Inform the police either in person or in writing about what is happening.

So taking their own advice I recommend that any hunt supporter who feels intimidated by the adverserial and agressive stance of these organisations to do do just as outlined and report them for what they really are.

 

[irish_only]

They've followed/harrassed my local pack for the last few years. Constantly trying to split the pack, horn blowing etc etc. This, despite the very obvious trail laying by two mounted people dragging a line, and hounds being put on said line when ready. Police called out often, nothing done about obvious trespass and harrassment.

 

[Festive_Felicitations]

Has anyone ever been able to record the abuse the Antis yell at members of the field?
I'm sure someone in the general press would be able to have fun with the transcript.

 

[irish_only]

Has anyone ever been able to record the abuse the Antis yell at members of the field?
I'm sure someone in the general press would be able to have fun with the transcript.

Strangely enough they get very offended when they are on the other end of the camera - either very abusive or cover their faces.