he failed the vetting

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asbo

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well, he failed big time, apparently she thinks he has suspensory demise or bone spavin
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he was sound on both fronts after flexion tests but lame on both hinds.

so, i have taken him off the market.
 
tbh i dont know, he was sound yesterday and sound today, infact the only time i have had a issue with his legs was when he was kicked.
 
was he only lame after flexions?

i have known plenty of horses fail the vet on flexions one week and pass with flying colours the next week with a different vet!
 
she failed him on flexions of hinds and the fact his fetlocks are low to the ground she thinks his suspensory is going.
 
Maybe get your vet to have a look at him? I suggest this as I had a horse that failed due to it's "broken wind and advanced sidebone". Got my vet out the same aftrnoon and he said nothing wrong with horse. Agreed with prospective purchaser that horse would go to local vet hospital and be xrayed and scoped with me paying for it all if she was ok and going halfers if the horse was problem free. Guess what - horse was 100% on both counts and got a lovely new home. Moral of story don't let that dreadful vet back on my yard and chalk up the 50% of the vet hospital costs.

If your boy does have a problem I'm very sorry and hope it works out one way of another.
 
I personally wouldn't worry too much about the flexion tbh. As long as you are honest about this vetting when people ring I see no reason why you should take him off?
 
would you want to take the risk of him having suspensory issues though?
at the end of the day he is my responsibility and i wouldnt feel happy that he might end up going somewhere unsuitable if he does have problems
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Ok might be a bit inflammatory here but ffs how many times do horses EVER hold their legs in the position of a flexion test? I'd probably be lame if someone did that to me! Maybe someone more knowledgable than me can explain the use of hoiking a horse's leg up like that for a few minutes and not expecting it to hurt when they put it down and are asked to move forward.

Prepared to be shot down in flames for this response but I think flexion tests prove nothing. Sorry about your news Asbo.
 
thing is if i advertise him as failed the vetting etc who is going to want him? i want as good a home for him as possible, hes not for sale for any other reason than i need to give up horses for a few years to concentrate on my studies
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I can`t help but think many good horses fail a vetting. I ve only had one vetted (dtrs Connie/tb - that failed the vetting on bog spavins) and only one went on to develop navicular syndrome , and thats because shoeing issues, all the rest were sound all their lives including Dtrs Connie.
If you can recognise all the major things that are wrong on a horse yourself, and can identify major confo issues why waste £300 on vetting It only appraised the soundness on THAT day!!! It may get kicked in the field and be on three legs the next.

I would now only get a two stage vetting at most, to check eyes, wind, heart and basic stuff and ask vet to take bloods if I thought the animal might be doped, though you can usually tell this by looking to see if the inner surface of the lower lids are bloodshot and a floppy bottom lip.

No doubt my contribution here will cause outrage and incredulity amongst some HHO members, but I haven't got shed loads of money to waste ( my friend paid out over £1000 in vetting three horses that all failed!).

Please remember it is my opinion only, to which I am entitled!!!
 
Would you consider loaning? Thousands of people are queuing up to loan working horses. You could select the home he went to from all the potentials, they wouldn't want a vetting, you keep control of his future - everyone's a winner, potentially.
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Please don't panic asbo.Let's look at this rationally.
Your vet is only sumising that it is suspensory issues.Unless the horse is scanned there is no proof that that is the issue .Also it seems a very random thing to say "or it could be a bone spavin."

Early signs of this are usually heat,sparodic lameness a change in the way the horse moves the leg particulary downhill and on sharp turns,a possible squaring of the toe and sometimes back pain due to the horse moving differently to alleviate discomfort.None of this will just happen overnight!
You would also be aware of some heat if it was a hind suspension issue and in my experience the horse would start to show early signs when ridden by being heavy in your hand and harder to work off his forehand due to his reluctance to work from behind.
I do think that suspensory lameness is the new buzz word,so many horses seem to be diagnosed withit willy nilly just lately.I seem to remember that navicular disease was once the diagnosous of every horse that had some front foot pain 20 years ago,yet i hardly hear of it nowadays.
Howabout doing a flexion test yourself in a few days time and asessing how lame he is(or not) for yourself and then go from there.
 
What did the prospective purchasers say asbo? Have they definitely walked away?

I think you said that it would be a smashing home - maybe they will have a good think and haggle you on price - which would be worth it if the home was right.
 
Personally I would be concerned about the suspensories if I were buying. But then I would be buying a long term competition capable horse.

There are so many people out there who just want a twice a week light hack and something to make a fuss of and spoil rotten lol!

BUT I think you are right in getting your vet to have a look. After all he knows the horse and vets are not infallible. Yours may have a different opinion to the other.

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she walked away as soon as the vet said possible things wrong, shes not interested.

end of the day, she wanted something to hack a few times a week and she ob thinks he cant do this, despite her riding him 2 days last week and him being sound.
 
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