Head size in puppy

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If there were two identical working cocker puppies in a litter but one was more chunky with a broader head and one was a bit smaller with a narrower head which would you go for? Would head size affect intelligence?
 

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I'd leave the chunky one where it was. A chunky head will be at the front of a chunky body, and both pace and style and for reasons that I don't entirely understand, the required 'drive' that a cocker needs, will most certainly be effected. If you only want a dog as a house pet, then it won't make much difference, but if you want a dog which displays the attributes of a working cocker, then pick the finer of the two. At least, that's what I'd do!

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I'd leave the chunky one where it was. A chunky head will be at the front of a chunky body, and both pace and style and for reasons that I don't entirely understand, the required 'drive' that a cocker needs, will most certainly be effected. If you only want a dog as a house pet, then it won't make much difference, but if you want a dog which displays the attributes of a working cocker, then pick the finer of the two. At least, that's what I'd do!

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I'm so glad you said that as I've picked the smaller one.
 

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I think unless you want to go for trialling I would pick the one you like best. ( See that you did, how exciting, what colour and when can you pick him/her up)?
 

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I think unless you want to go for trialling I would pick the one you like best. ( See that you did, how exciting, what colour and when can you pick him/her up)?
Pure liver colour, health tested bitch. Don't want get too excited until her vet check at 7 weeks in a month's time. She is SO sweet and funny - I was just a bit worried in case she was small. She's determined though. Mum walked off while she was at the milk bar and she just hung on sucking like mad while mum paced the room.
 

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I'd take the bigger one, all else being equal because I can't stand snipey heads on spaniels but attitude/conformation/gender would be more important
 

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It depends. The fine one might be too fine and bordering on poodly, which isn't correct. The chunkier head might be tending toward coarseness. I think it's a "how long is a piece of string" type question. I couldn't reply about working attributes etc, but if it was going to be a pet, I would just make sure that if going for the finer one that the teeth look like they're in the right position.
 

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Pure liver colour, health tested bitch. Don't want get too excited until her vet check at 7 weeks in a month's time. She is SO sweet and funny - I was just a bit worried in case she was small. She's determined though. Mum walked off while she was at the milk bar and she just hung on sucking like mad while mum paced the room.

Sounds great. When we picked up our latest lab pup they hadn't been vet checked and there was a refund offer if my vet found an issue. It was really worrying until she got the all clear (2 days) so I think having them checked before you get them makes much more sense.
 

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Bear, middle of pic, has a noticeably massive head. He has grown into it! Zak, on the right, is far finer. Bear is the superior dog on the field and has a much higher drive. He is far better at finding and retrieving. He has more focus than Zak. I have no idea if this is related to head size.

OP, you are unreasonable not to post a puppy picture! I'm broody after a mate at the yard showed me her new springer puppy!
 

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Bear, middle of pic, has a noticeably massive head. He has grown into it! Zak, on the right, is far finer. Bear is the superior dog on the field and has a much higher drive. He is far better at finding and retrieving. He has more focus than Zak. I have no idea if this is related to head size.

OP, you are unreasonable not to post a puppy picture! I'm broody after a mate at the yard showed me her new springer puppy!
I will post ONCE the pup has passed her health check at the vet and she is ours. Small problem though - I have no idea how to post a pic on this site.
 

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Email pics to someone you know/trust, or if you have Facebook, open the picture, right click if on a pc and copy or hold finger on pic if on a tablet and copy image then paste the result between this
Don't leave spaces.
 

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Are you on a tablet or computer? You need to copy your original image from Facebook (not sure if it will work if it's not Facebook) then require my post with the picture, delete everything between the
and paste your pic between the two lots of brackets.

Ha, Alec, I'm dead trustworthy, for sure, very law abiding! I had a speeding fine one time, you know, master criminal, me!
 

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Are you on a tablet or computer? You need to copy your original image from Facebook (not sure if it will work if it's not Facebook) then require my post with the picture, delete everything between the
and paste your pic between the two lots of brackets.
Right this is too much for me - I don't really do computers! Different generation to you. Maybe when I get the pup I will email you a pic and then you can put it up for Alec to see. Thanks so much though for trying to educate me.
 

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There is a recent thread in clubhouse, started by Thistle. Try that first. It is largely beyond me.
 

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Head size is allegedly a sign of brain size. I say allegedly, as I and my kids have massive heads. Not sure if the theory has been signed off with us!!
 

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Thank you SO much cinnamontoast! Yes she is cute isn't she. I am not worried about her head now as she suddenly grew and caught up with her sisters. She is apparently the most agile and seems to be very bright. If she passes her vet check OK she will be ours in a couple of weeks or so. Can't wait.
 

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She's ridiculously cute!

People used to remark on Bear's massive head but he's generally a big dog (bull in china shop) and Zak's more petit head just makes him look finer now.
 
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