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Karran

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So last night I picked up my new spaniel! First one ever and its going well so far.

I was rehoming her from a lady who's marriage had split up and she couldn't take her.

So now we have Hero! A 10 Month old Cocker Spaniel. There was some confusion about this as the lady is absolutely adamant that she is a Springer, despite the vet details saying otherwise.

Twiggy on here helped me identify her as I wasn't sure when I met her but not really knowing the breeds too well I went with what she had said, I felt best to leave the woman's delusions be once I was sure!

So she got her at 9 last night, which isn't ideal. She was clearly allowed into bedrooms and on furniture which is a big no-no in my book so she's had a few quick lessons in what is good behaviour or not!

She slept outside our bedrooms despite her old bed being here and in the kitchen and scared life out of me in middle of night when I went out to bathroom!

My Brother took her for a quick 20 min whiz about at 6 this morning and we went for an hour long park adventure this afternoon and will probably pop back in a bit to go again for another hour, before a quick spin round the block before bed.
Her lead manners are terrible so there's going to be lots of practise there. I hate pulling dogs!
She has a couple of Kongs to play with which i'll stuff with treats before heading to the yard tomorrow. She has had a bit of a chew of things which is mostly my fault as its been a while since I've had a young dog and it was all very last minute yesterday as the lady originally agreed we could do today but then decided she didn't want to do it on her daughter's birthday!!? (People confuse me).

She is being a bit clingy, whining a lot and wanting to be everywhere we are and currently burrowing under and under my legs as I sit on the sofa. I'm guessing this is probably obviously cos she is confused and unsettled at the sudden change in her circumstances?

I'm trying very hard to ignore the clingy behaviour and she does settle if you leave her be but I'm wondering about crating, we'll see how she gets on tomorrow as I'll be up the yard for 3 hours or so and we'll all be at work on Monday and if it does turn into a problem I can grab one quickly. (luckily there isn't too much she can chew and she should be only alone 4-5 hours at most before someone can come see her). I did leave her for an hour earlier today while I ran errands and she nibbled on some paper that was lying about.

My brother works shifts so will be off a couple of days in the week as well and hopefully between us it'll be manageable with local inquiries about a dog walker for the days when she will be alone all day.

My OH works abroad a lot and will be home in a month time so i'll book spaying for then once I know when he's back and for how long for and he can monitor then and then hopefully recall etc will be firmly in place (I say with crossed fingers) and she can come up to the yard with me.

So Finally :) A picture!

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She is lovely, a crate will help with insecurity, give her somewhere to call her own. It will also keep her safe from things she could chew and cause harm.

I wonder if she is a Sprocker, hence the confusion! Whichever she is she'll have a very busy active mind and body and will need to be kept occupied.

Are you going to work her? If not I bet she would be great at agility.
 
I'm thinking of investigating agility classes with her. Keeping the mind going was a big concern of mine before I said yes. My YM has a Springer and my best friends sister so I wasn't going in too blind to what I was taking on.
We've just come back from another park run/lead training session. I feel like my arm is about 6ft long but there was odd moments where she walked nicely so baby steps!

I'll prepare some stuffed kongs tonight and see how she gets on with them tomorrow, she loved playing with one earlier but I left her downstairs and shut my bedroom door and instantly she abandoned it to follow me and sit outside.
(Its soooo hard being strict and not giving in to her! I really don't want to encourage the clinging!)

If there is any more chewing when I get back then I can get a crate and spend the afternoon preparing her with it. She currently has free range of the kitchen, back room and downstairs hallway.

I thought having her own bed here would help but she's not gone in it apart from when I've sent her there.
 
She is being a bit clingy, whining a lot and wanting to be everywhere we are and currently burrowing under and under my legs as I sit on the sofa. I'm guessing this is probably obviously cos she is confused and unsettled at the sudden change in her circumstances?

I'm trying very hard to ignore the clingy behaviour and she does settle if you leave her be but I'm wondering about crating, we'll see how she gets on


So Finally :) A picture!

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Ignore the clingy behaviour ??? For gods sake she is in a strange new home and is probably confused and would love a cuddle !!!

Sorry but you sound very harsh!

Lovely dog btw
 
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Yeah that probably came across wrongly! She is getting fuss, but I want it to be on my own terms if that makes sense? I don't want her jumping up and all over people and whathaveyou so trying to ignore that and giving her the attention when she's settled and being calm.

I don't mind the under my feet behaviour as she settles but I don't want something all over me 24/7 as I just don't think thats healthy if she gets too attached to me as it could cause problems in the future.
 
I'm sorry but I cannot comprehend why you wouldn't want your new puppy to get attached to you???? Really bizarre IMO. All my pets have been fully attached to me that's what having a pet/companion is all about.

You do sound quite cold
 
I'm sorry but I cannot comprehend why you wouldn't want your new puppy to get attached to you???? Really bizarre IMO. All my pets have been fully attached to me that's what having a pet/companion is all about.

You do sound quite cold

I think you're over-reacting a bit! I think the OP sounds very sensible and by setting ground rules early, the new dog will hopefully settle in more easily and adjust to being left for periods of time. It doesn't mean they won't bond with the dog! I'll edit to say, I am not an expert in dogs or behaviour, but I think I would take the same approach too.

OP, she's lovely - very much like my old sprocker (she was a rescue from a puppy farmer). Bet she'll love some agility :smile3:
 
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I think you're over-reacting a bit! I think the OP sounds very sensible and by setting ground rules early, the new dog will hopefully settle in more easily and adjust to being left for periods of time. It doesn't mean they won't bond with the dog!

OP, she's lovely - very much like my old sprocker (she was a rescue from a puppy farmer). Bet she'll love some agility :smile3:

Well I make no apologies for the fact I have been fully attached to all my pets, be them cat, dog or pony and I don't think giving a new confused frightened little puppy a cuddle on her first night is out of order!
 
I think the OP is right, actually. Spaniels can be Velcro dogs, says me with the big lump on my knee. I admire the OP if she can be strict about not having to trip over the dog and that she stays off the furniture.

I'd say cocker if she's not terribly big, not that it matters. Maybe some training to the whistle would keep her occupied, dummy work/retrieval etc.

I love crates, I think they're fab for keeping the dog and property safe.
 
I'm sorry but I cannot comprehend why you wouldn't want your new puppy to get attached to you???? Really bizarre IMO. All my pets have been fully attached to me that's what having a pet/companion is all about.

You do sound quite cold

You clearly don't know very much about dog behaviour (or animal behaviour in general).

Dogs don't think like human babies. They don't take comfort from being mollycoddled when they are worried. For them it just intensifies the feelings of anxiety and reinforces that there is something to be worried about.

She is really cute, Karran! It sounds like you're doing all the right things.
 
Of course there's nothing wrong with giving a new pup a cuddle, but it could lead to confusion in the future - Pup is allowed on the sofa/bed/whatever to begin with, and then it's hard to train it later on, for example, to only come on the sofa when you say it's ok. That can be very confusing!
 
You clearly don't know very much about dog behaviour (or animal behaviour in general).

Dogs don't think like human babies. They don't take comfort from being mollycoddled when they are worried. For them it just intensifies the feelings of anxiety and reinforces that there is something to be worried about.

She is really cute, Karran! It sounds like you're doing all the right things.


You actually know nothing about me I have been brought up with dogs all my life. I was merely stating the fact that I found OP didn't want to get too attached to her puppy quite odd that's all.
 
Oh dear I really am coming across badly!

I want her to have a bond with her obviously, but at the same time I want her to accept that we play on my terms, not hers, that sometimes I will be out of the house, and I cannot be about 24/7 to give her attention. Does that make more sense? We've been playing here, but the game stops when she gets too boisterous, or nips, or jumps up onto furniture.

She is settling slowly, when she arrived last night, it was hard to keep her from being on our laps on the sofa. Now she puts a paw on them, gets corrected and is happy on the floor. She will now wander into other rooms and be a little more independent. Yes she still wants to be everywhere we are, but thats got to be within reason - I don't really want a dog watching me when i'm in the loo or shower!

I want a dog that is happy to be left while I'm at work, at the moment she is obviously clinging to me as she knows me the best and my brother (i share a house with him and my partner) has been at work all day. But I am trying to let her be aware of the fact that she cannot follow me everywhere I go (to work for example) and there are certain rooms (like bedrooms) where she is not allowed, but again this is done gently as I'm aware she's had a huge, huge upheaval and needs the time to adjust.

She is currently curled up under my feet, perfectly happy, I'm happy for her to be there. She's getting the comfort she's currently craving and I'm getting a nice warm footwarmer! That's not really the actions of someone who doesn't want to have any connection to their pet is it?

I promise I am already very fond of the daft thing!
 
Don't think the OP said that anywhere :confused3: She quite rightly isn't pandering to the dog. It's like a brand new puppy, one shouldn't pander all the time or you end up with a clingy, destructive dog with SA.
 
Oh dear I really am coming across badly!

I want her to have a bond with her obviously, but at the same time I want her to accept that we play on my terms, not hers, that sometimes I will be out of the house, and I cannot be about 24/7 to give her attention. Does that make more sense? We've been playing here, but the game stops when she gets too boisterous, or nips, or jumps up onto furniture.

She is settling slowly, when she arrived last night, it was hard to keep her from being on our laps on the sofa. Now she puts a paw on them, gets corrected and is happy on the floor. She will now wander into other rooms and be a little more independent. Yes she still wants to be everywhere we are, but thats got to be within reason - I don't really want a dog watching me when i'm in the loo or shower!

I want a dog that is happy to be left while I'm at work, at the moment she is obviously clinging to me as she knows me the best and my brother (i share a house with him and my partner) has been at work all day. But I am trying to let her be aware of the fact that she cannot follow me everywhere I go (to work for example) and there are certain rooms (like bedrooms) where she is not allowed, but again this is done gently as I'm aware she's had a huge, huge upheaval and needs the time to adjust.

She is currently curled up under my feet, perfectly happy, I'm happy for her to be there. She's getting the comfort she's currently craving and I'm getting a nice warm footwarmer! That's not really the actions of someone who doesn't want to have any connection to their pet is it?

I promise I am already very fond of the daft thing!

you sound like you are doing just fine
 
Oh dear I really am coming across badly!

Not at all! You are doing your best to create an independent, confident pup that has no separation anxiety. Sometimes you have to be 'cruel' (although I don't see it as such) in order to be kind in the long term.

Some people really don't understand dog behaviour and reinforcement at all. :(
 
That all sounds very sensible to me, hope she continue to settle in well :smile3:

you sound like you are doing just fine

Don't think the OP said that anywhere :confused3: She quite rightly isn't pandering to the dog. It's like a brand new puppy, one shouldn't pander all the time or you end up with a clingy, destructive dog with SA.

Phew - I dont claim to be a dog expert at all (unlike people like Cayla for example) but nor am I completely novicey. I'm trying to do my best and help her settle in slowly, I'm already panicking about her being left on Monday, even though my brother is on lates so will be able to take her out at 12 and I'll be home by 5 for her.

I was starting to worry that I've been going about it all the wrong way!!
 
Phew - I dont claim to be a dog expert at all (unlike people like Cayla for example) but nor am I completely novicey. I'm trying to do my best and help her settle in slowly, I'm already panicking about her being left on Monday, even though my brother is on lates so will be able to take her out at 12 and I'll be home by 5 for her.

I was starting to worry that I've been going about it all the wrong way!!

I have Inboxed you Karran and my apologies if what I said upset you.
 
No that's fine as I said - I appreciate the concern and even more appreciate the apology.

Hero (which is a daft name for a dog in my opinion!) also sends sleepy best wishes and a tail wag :)

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Hero is a strange name for a female dog, you could call her Hera, the greek goddess of beauty and intelligence. She was the sister of Zeus and also his wife!

I'm biased, my lab is named Hera as one of my children was studying greek history at school.
 
She is very cute and I think you are doing just fine, start off as you mean to go on, some of my foster dogs have had crap lives but the minute they come into my home they have to fit in with me and my rules, you wont be doing her any favours by molly coddling her in fact it will be harder for her to settle and adjust. A set routine is actually a comfort for a dog as they know exactly where the stand, I look forward to your updates and hear about her progress.
 
Just a quick update. I'm so, so pleased with her. We hit upon the idea of moving her basket upstairs last night and that settled her a lot more, she was still getting up asking where we were going when we got up but she was happy to go back in her basket when asked and she wasn't waiting outside our doors at the first sound of movement.

I left her with the radio on and a Kong for 3 hours while I was at the yard and she clearly had a little play with it but was in her basket when i got in, so just given it to her again which is causing hours of fun killing it and she had a lot of fuss for being good and not eating anything!

Lets hope this continues! :) :)
 
she looks lovely. hope you have many years of fun with her.



p.s so I probably shouldn't mentions that my two collies, the colliexlab pup and the king Charles are all allowed in the bedrooms and on the beds sofas etc.....:/
 
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