heeeeelp! 24/7 turn out to 24/7 stabled!

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Im wanting to move my welsh cob nearer home. Shes currently out 24/7 doesnt have a problem with it at all, however her current yard if very far from me, so im wanting to move her nearer home. Ive found a fab yard thats almost behind my house, a 2 minute drive over the moors which my house is on the back off, so im able to walk to it in about 15 minutes! It has an outdoor arena and indoor school which my current yard doesnt have, and due to her being 3 in summer, the school will prove very useful! However, there is NO turnout through winter at this yard thats closer to me. With it being so close it isnt a problem getting there at almost any time of the day! Im just worried about the drastic change for my youngster! If anyone has any similar experiances pleeease share! Or any adivce at all! Thanks!!
 
Personally I would leave your youngster at her current yard - I really do believe that turnout is essential for youngsters. Possibly make the move to the other yard when you back your filly.
 
Theres no turn out what so ever! Thats the only part about the yard that bothered me, the horses have probablxly about half an hour to an hours run in the indoor school. The yard shes currently at is about 12 miles from my house so shes not getting as handled as much as i want, which is another main reason for moving her. Think maybe ill have a look around for another yard thats close to me
 
Think you would regret it. Physically and mentally, it will affect your youngster, not to mention the effect it may have on you.

Having been on yards where promised winter turnout didn't happen, it was awful inflicting permanent stabling on my horses.
Even though they were so good, just looking at them told me, they weren't.
It took the pleasure out of horse ownership and replaced it with guilt, until I got them out of there.
 
Is there just no turnout because of extreme wet conditions or is this a general thing for the winter months (also when do they consider to be winter months?) If they will start being turned out at some point in spring then maybe you could move her there for the facilities for backing which would be understandable, but then you may have to move again next winter if they are going to keep her in for months on end.
 
Not a chance in hell I'd move there. I don't like long term stabling for any horse but really dislike it for youngsters.
I'd be inclined to move when turn out happens (make sure you know how long and when. I was promised 24/7 and then had my horse brought in) but have a field/yard with turn out to chuck her back out on next winter.
 
I agree! I dont want her in 24/7, but i also dont want to leave her at her current yard until summer, as she isnt getting the time she needs. The reason theyve said no turn out us due to the fields being too wet.
 
No turnout - no go

In fact it would be a HELL no from me - especially to go from the being out 24.7 to not out at all....... Cruel.
 
I wouldn't have any of my babies in 24/7 for the whole winter no matter how close it was to me. Sometimes if the weathers awful mine stay in for a few days, or only get the odd hour or so out (especially at the moment) but to keep in for the whole winter would be a no go for me.

If it was a perfect yard and the horse was old enough to be ridden properly daily and it had a walker then I would consider it but id still much prefer the option of having winter turnout and so would my horses!
 
oh no- i had to keep my rising 3 yo in last winter, promised t/o and it didn't happen and nowhere to move to- worse mistake ever. Leaving and knowing ned hadn't been out, limited due to age re exercise- no, no, no! Is there not somewhere in between, with prehaps a basic sand school, nearer home, but with turnout? I can't abide having a youngster stuck in a 12x12 box all day and night- it's not natural!
 
Totally agree that its soo unnatural, especially considering shes a native and can cope perfectly well with English weather! I'm in Baildon, West Yorkshire. Theres another yard at the bottom of the road where i live, there's just a few issues around that yard that i really don't like, and risks of horses getting stolen in my opinion. Im 17 and want her at a yard that i'm able to walk to that's under an hour personally.
 
eggs said:
Personally I would leave your youngster at her current yard - I really do believe that turnout is essential for youngsters. Possibly make the move to the other yard when you back your filly.
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I agree with this.

Bringing a youngster that has been living out to being stabled full time is asking for vices or bad habits and will make breaking her a lot harder. I'd rather have her out, happy and not handled for another ten weeks - which takes us to the edge of winter, than in just for the sake of a few weeks handling.

Does the yard do turnout in summer and when does it start? I would move her then. In the meantime keep looking.
 
sophie550 said:
Totally agree that its soo unnatural, especially considering shes a native and can cope perfectly well with English weather! I'm in Baildon, West Yorkshire. Theres another yard at the bottom of the road where i live, there's just a few issues around that yard that i really don't like, and risks of horses getting stolen in my opinion. Im 17 and want her at a yard that i'm able to walk to that's under an hour personally.
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I understand, that's a tricky one, what is the reason why the potential yard wont offer t/o?
 
Yes it has turn out in summer, and i don't want her stabled either, not since it would be such a drastic change for her and she was bred in wales and lived out her whole life until she was 2 there. She has always lived out with me and we both prefer it!

I've found another yard now I think. Its about 5/10 minute drive from me! So only a little bit further from the last one. They have 2 very large outdoor schools, and hopefully turnout! But i will give them a call in the morning. Its a small riding school and livery yard so hopefully there will always be horses around her, be it if shes in her stable for a pamper and a groom or out.
 
horsesatemychristmasmoney said:
I understand, that's a tricky one, what is the reason why the potential yard wont offer t/o?
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They say its due to the fields being too muddy ETC. Personally they looked relativity alright to me to say it was winter! And they were pretty much flat so no sliding down hills! But the YO said no turn out so no ones allowed it.
 
I know you aren't moving her to the no turnout place but as a by the by my 2 year old has just had 6 weeks box rest with a hock op. He has always lived out with me. He went from being the most pleasant youngster, looking fantastic - muddy but muscled up and shiney - to a poor, dull coated miserable horse in that time. I hated seeing what it did to him. I have never kept horses in 24/7, when I hunted 3 days a fortnight they went out everyday. It is so wrong for them on so many levels.
 
Its awful seeing them look miserable! Would rather scrape mud off every day than see her look unhappy! It would have been a perfect yard if it allowed T/O! Hoping so much now that the other yard i have found lives up to my expectations!
 
sophie550 said:
They say its due to the fields being too muddy ETC. Personally they looked relativity alright to me to say it was winter! And they were pretty much flat so no sliding down hills! But the YO said no turn out so no ones allowed it.
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That sounds quite unreasonable...not even an hour or so? (not that that would really be ok!). Also, what is 'winter?' One near us is September to April, no t/o at all! :eek:
 
This weather is pushing a lot of horses into their stables 24/7.

I went into our local feed merchants today and there was not a bale of shavings to be had and the 2 shelves that are normally full of a vast array of calming supplements were totally empty.
 
Sorry, big fat no for me, I'd rather spend a bit less time with them and them being out 24/7 than all the time in the world with them because they were in 24/7. I can't see how a youngster being in 24/7 will be good for them long term even given the extra time you'll get with them. Hopefully a good compromise will come your way so you won't have to make such a drastic change.
 
horsesatemychristmasmoney said:
That sounds quite unreasonable...not even an hour or so? (not that that would really be ok!). Also, what is 'winter?' One near us is September to April, no t/o at all! :eek:
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They were allowed in the indoor school for a run, but they were all going in there individuality, so they were only in there an hour or so, if that. The YO said to me that if they were to live out they would all be covered in mud fever! But to me the indoor school was no better than what the fields looked! If not worse! Was boggy and dreadful! Alot of people around me class winter (Start to bring in) around November to April time, but not totally sure about that specific yard!
 
AdorableAlice said:
This weather is pushing a lot of horses into their stables 24/7.

I went into our local feed merchants today and there was not a bale of shavings to be had and the 2 shelves that are normally full of a vast array of calming supplements were totally empty.
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Agree. Our yard does have all year turnout normally - daytime turnout through winter and 24/7 in summer if wanted. My horses last had a half day out on Christmas Eve, but due to the weather have only had 45mins-1 hour out per day since then due to the torrential rain and the swamp like fields. My young one is only 3 and a half, but is at least now in light work, so I can do bits with her. But I hasten to add that it is only the weather that is meaning that they are in - I don't think I would even consider moving to a yard that has a blanket "no turnout" policy!
 
My horses are having to stay in 24/7 ATM (including a 3 year old) and I hate it! Would never keep horses at a yard they have to be in 24/7. Luckily mine is only temporarily until the weather improves which will hopefully be soon as its getting utterly rediculous. (live in leics and we have flooding all round here)
 
I think there's a difference with yards that have been forced into no t/o, because of the weather like yours Holly Hocks, and one which has a blanket 'no winter t/o policy'
 
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