SatansLittleHelper
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Is it feasible that a 2 year old Sec D standing at 15.1hh currently would make over 16hh..?? Pure registered Sec D, recently gelded.
Is it feasible that a 2 year old Sec D standing at 15.1hh currently would make over 16hh..?? Pure registered Sec D, recently gelded.
Is it feasible that a 2 year old Sec D standing at 15.1hh currently would make over 16hh..?? Pure registered Sec D, recently gelded.
i find it so sad that the height restriction was lifted, why did they not just create a new welsh E over the max height for a D?
Yes as others say it could go either way. I've known a couple of 16.1 16.2 pure welshies
wow, i'd like to see that.
I owned a 16.1 one once... I'll see if I can scan some photos (pre digital age!)
i find it so sad that the height restriction was lifted, why did they not just create a new welsh E over the max height for a D?
Why does it make you sad? Just seems a strange reaction to a few inches, many things in life make me sad but a fine looking substantial d would not be one them.
I saw a beaut just thus weekend gone, stood 16 hands but still had the all the characteristics and walked away with the champion section d class, well deserved.
Strange that people think that traditional Welsh Cobs are on the small side. According to Dr Wynne Jones, Cardigan Comet III (foaled 1880) was 15 hands 3 inches and Cardigan Comet IV (foaled 1885) was 16 hands. At the 1905 WPCS AGM the general feeling of the meeting was a regret that the upper height limit was instigated when the stud book was established in 1902 and the motion was therefore carried to abolish the upper height limit. So in fact the upper height limit was only in place for 3 years. Traditional cobs therefore have historically been all heights.If they stand over 15hh-15.3hh surely they are no longer cobs of the true Welsh breeding, my Welsh Sec D stands at 14hh and his pedigree goes back many many years on both sides.
Strange that people think that traditional Welsh Cobs are on the small side. According to Dr Wynne Jones, Cardigan Comet III (foaled 1880) was 15 hands 3 inches and Cardigan Comet IV (foaled 1885) was 16 hands. At the 1905 WPCS AGM the general feeling of the meeting was a regret that the upper height limit was instigated when the stud book was established in 1902 and the motion was therefore carried to abolish the upper height limit. So in fact the upper height limit was only in place for 3 years. Traditional cobs therefore have historically been all heights.
Interestingly while I aim to breed cobs at around 14hands 2 inched to 15 hands, the most successful cob we have bred (Nantwood Solomon) stands over 15 hands.
I may be completely wrong (and probably am!) but I thought Cardigan Comet III was a Hackney?
i find it so sad that the height restriction was lifted, why did they not just create a new welsh E over the max height for a D?
The only problem with the larger Sec D's I feel is that they lose their pony characteristics which are the fundamental essence of a true to type Welsh cob.
I knew a 16.2 gelding what a lovely chap he was.
If you mean being a little b*gger then no this one was still cheeky as ever - let himself out of his stable if you forgot the kick bolt, tried every trick in the book to get out of something..![]()
I am quoting from Dr Wynne's book The Welsh Cob 'We see from early stud cards that many Welsh Cob stallions of pre Stud Book times were over 15 hands 2 in - for example, Cardigan Comet III (foaled 1880) was 15 hands 3 in.....'
I think part of the problem is that at that stage the Welsh Cob was not really a breed but a type with the farmers crossing amongst others Hackneys, Norfolk trotters Arabs and Yorkshire Coach horses. The 'breed' was only established when the stud book was set up.
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I hope these are pictures of Solomon as a three year old, he was approx 15hands then. Welsh Cob?
I know I've said it before but he is just utterly gorgeous!