Help and Advice - flat footed, EMS/laminitic Shetland

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Hi! Not posted in a while but been spending numerous hours on this forum and others researching hoof health and feel it would now be beneficial to gain others opinions.
The pony in question is a 13 year old Shetland Gelding, he weigh tapes at 160kg.
He had a bout of laminitis 5 years ago, this was the first time he had ever been lame and the only real bout of laminitis he's ever had.
A year after he recovered he was broken to drive and was successfully driven for two years - he resembled a mini sports pony with not an ounce of fat, very fit and slim indeed. We then had an accident when he unexpectedly and without reason bolted, I took the decision to stop driving as had it been on the road it could have been awful.
We are now entering our 2nd year of no driving, he became footy in December and I have been soaking his hay for 12 hours ever since. He strides out and is sound in trot on smooth concrete and grass, however on stoney surfaces he is quite careful once he catches himself on a stone. He is on a very bare paddock from 7 am - 6 pm with a treat ball with two handfuls of Baileys Tasty Treats ( http://www.baileyshorsefeeds.co.uk/whatproduct/supplements/treats.htm ) which he loves as it really keeps him entertained. He is brought in at 6pm with a 2kg net of soaked hay double netted for the night. In the morning he has a small handful of happy hoof with 2g of Mag ox to help break down two very slight fat pads on his shoulders. He weight tapes at 160kg so working on the 1.5% and taking into the account the little that he grazes and the treat ball.
Once the ground dries up i will begin lunging again but nothing seems to quite compare to when he was being driven.
He has flat front feet (from memory this has only come about since the laminitis 5 years ago), not completely but very different to his hinds which are lovely and concave. What can I do to improve his hooves from the inside without pumping him with feed.
I've read a lot about fast fibre being a good carrier for whatever supplements you need to feed (I loathe giving him happy hoof but need it for the mag ox) is there any difference in fast fibre vs happy hoof?
Should I feed biotin straight along with the mag ox to improve feet, is there anything I am missing? I'm seriously considering testing for EMS/ IR with the vet but in the mean time I want to get an appropriate diet sorted.
If I've missed anything out apologies! Would love to hear ideas from those with direct experience dealing with the above issues incase I'm missing something!
 
If I were you I would ditch the happy hoof. My little man only ever had trouble when I fed him that. I just used to give a handful of non-molassed chaff (dampened). I think you might want to think about not giving so many treats as well, halve them at least, I've not been giving those Baileys thingies to either of mine since they both had to go on a low sugar diet. Oh, and as soon as you can lots of exercise, as you've driven in the past long reining would be better than lunging as there's less strain on the feet.
 
Thanks for that 3OldPonies! That's why I'd looked at fast fibre, I wrongly assumed that happy hoof was a simple unmolassed chaff! Will look into that. Good idea re long reining too, that's better for my waistline as well!
 
My EMS/IR horse is on dengie healthy hooves molasses free, handful morning and night to carry his metformin and joint supplement from hack up. It's helped his feet and is no molasses in it.
The other that's good is progressive earth pro hoof or pro balance plus.
 
That's interesting thank you Slightly Confused! Just had a look at the nutritional analysis online for Happy Hoof and Healthy Hooves Unmolassed and Healthy Hooves does appear to come out on top! Happy hoof doesn't even mention the biotin amounts amongst other things. Will look in to the other two you've mentioned also thanks.
 
I would also stop happy hoof, its so wrongly named it annoys me, plus the vits are in the nuts so u can guarantee what they are getting daily unless u count every nut whereas healthy hooves has the vits sprayed on so should be more consistence hopefully. Regarding the biotin levels unless your feeding the recommended daily amounts u won't benifit from the biotin anyway so I wouldn't worry about what biotin is in there and add a vit supplement to a tiny handful and add biotin if u want but the horse should make biotin himself, but they do need corect levels of copper and zinc its not just biotin for feet. I would also drop so many treats and up exercise, long reining is great as mentioned and even walking it hand will do both of you good
 
Thanks thatsmygirl, I think when I began using haply hoof 8+ years ago I'd never heard of healthy hooves, and when it did appear it wasn't the unmolassed version hence I've never re-looked at it, I wonder if they introduced that slightly later? I only supplement with mag ox at the moment and was thinking of buying biotin in the same way and adding that in, think I need to look into specific hoof supplements with copper and zinc included too? Will reduce the amount of treats he has in his ball too. Hate the thought of him being bored as there really is very little grass!
 
Baileys high fibre nuggets are treat sized and may be better for the ball if you switch to a chaff that has vits and minerals in
 
Gloi, he's the biggest out of my two! You won't get me on a horse anymore :( however last summer I did take him out on my bike, bit hair raising because he's a spooky ****** nowadays but will start that up again shortly! Thanks WelshD I'll look into them as the bucket of treats is nearly finished now anyway!
 
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