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Okay, had physio out for 4 year old last mon and she said pelvis out but she thinks she has sorted it and muscle spasms should stop, but if after 2 weeks he is still swishing tail 24/7 and walking short get the vet.
I'd just like to say this physio is Grade A, a top event riders physio and is recommended by everyone i know and she also did my previous pony and i totally trust her. She said to walk and trot him only, hack out on slopes and pole work.

So, been hacking and pole work since, had equassage on him but have only walked him, was supposed to trot him today but came off and knackered back for a few days so gonna have to trot inhand on a lunge (but not on a small circle going round and round).

He stopped tail swishing for a few days and was walking well then on sat we had a incident hacking out where i ended up on the road and he leaping around. Since then he has tail swished but still walking better.
I then came off again today but he was still walking fine and looser but tail swishing.

Going to trot him tomorrow and see what happens.

Now, my dilema is do i call the vet on monday after the 2 weeks or not? The reason i would is because of the tail swishing, and i will also see what he is like trotting and desperatly want to find the root of the problem and be better safe than sorry. The reason i am reluctant to is because he is walking better and is still growing and still developing the muscles he needs and many have said that they can be like children growing and get growing pains. I don't want to do any damamge through the vet due to his age and maturing.

I obviously want to get him sorted and sound so i can crack on with him, obviously slowly. But then i don't the vets doing this and that when he is only 4 and could just be that he is growing.

He is always keen, loves jumping and never reluctant to do anything that would suggest he is in constant pain but obviously the tail swishing is on my mind now and i don't know what to do.

Help please! And pretty please be nice!
 
Why not talk through what happened with the physio first to see what she suggests. Sorry to hear about your fall.
 
asommerville said:
am i reading it right that youve came off twice in 3 days?? how did that happen? imo id stop riding and get the vet!!
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Yes but i haven't done him justice. One was a spook whilst hacking and it caught me off guard. Today was in indoor when jet wash started outside hitting the metal wall which he was next too giving him a fright
 
Ooh bit far, vet is near Newmarket.. I've been back & forth to her over the past year & I have never come across anyone as good infact just amazing & I have always used people who are highly recommended by everyone .. A shame you're so far away..
 
Not sure if I'd call out the vet for a bit of tail swishing and spookiness.
Why did you get physio out in first place? What symptoms were showing then that made physio presume the pelvis was "out"?
 
I'm always deeply suspicious of a pelvis being 'out'. I would be getting the vet before the physio with the symptoms you've described.
 
The symptoms were walking short and tail swishing. We thought it would be something like tight muscles or something as that was the problem with previous pony when we used her and he was fine afterwards. That's is why we got the physio.

For the vet, should I tell them what physio said and diagnosed (make their job easier) or should I say nothing and see what they diagnose?
 
wewillshowthem said:
The symptoms were walking short and tail swishing. We thought it would be something like tight muscles or something as that was the problem with previous pony when we used her and he was fine afterwards. That's is why we got the physio.

For the vet, should I tell them what physio said and diagnosed (make their job easier) or should I say nothing and see what they diagnose?
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I always understood that a physio was not supposed to treat a horse without the express permission of the vet?
 
I am confused about why the physio is diagnosing what's wrong with a lame horse full stop.

If your 4 year old isn't moving correctly and is uncomfortable, and has done something sufficiently catastrophic to move it's pelvis then you certainly should get the vet. The alternative is that the muscle spasms were causing assymetry then you really need to know what is causing discomfort in your horse. Could be teeth, tack, legs, feet or your riding. Personally I would be investigating rigorously.
 
Achinghips said:
Not sure if I'd call out the vet for a bit of tail swishing and spookiness.
Why did you get physio out in first place? What symptoms were showing then that made physio presume the pelvis was "out"?
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The horse is presenting lame - as per the original post.
 
You should not have to tell the vet what the physio said the physio should have sent a report of treatment to the vet having asked for consent to treat in the first place, if they are not doing this I would not be using them to treat my horse.
As others have said they should not be diagnosing just treating, the vet does the diagnosis first.
 
Just be aware, if you didn't realise you needed vet permission for physio, it will invalidate your insurance if the physio hasn't had permission. Good luck, horses make us all worry so much!
 
wewillshowthem said:
The symptoms were walking short and tail swishing. We thought it would be something like tight muscles or something as that was the problem with previous pony when we used her and he was fine afterwards. That's is why we got the physio.

For the vet, should I tell them what physio said and diagnosed (make their job easier) or should I say nothing and see what they diagnose?
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Same problem or symptoms etc?

I'd be a bit wary on either getting money out of you, or why they had exactly the same problem, if it's identical?

The physio should have talked to your vet anyway, so say that they've been up to see horse (don't hide anything that might help diagnosis)
 
PandorasJar said:
Same problem or symptoms etc?

I'd be a bit wary on either getting money out of you, or why they had exactly the same problem, if it's identical?

The physio should have talked to your vet anyway, so say that they've been up to see horse (don't hide anything that might help diagnosis)
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The ponies problem was due to the people who loaned him from me for 3 weeks, they trashed him round and this led to pulled muscles. My 4 yo tears round the field evey day causing trouble so we thought it would be something similar.
 
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