help and adviced needed please help :(

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hi i have started to loan a horse in my local area the only problem is, is that he will not do anything without his owner there, she can see what he's like but he wont let me put head collar on tack him up and it's not through lack of trying also when the owner does come down and i ride out with her following on a push bike he is extremley jumpy but the worst of all is that for instance if she says you go up the field i'll bike on the road and meet you at the other end he plays up so bad and not matter how much pursuading he goes mad.

CAN ANY ONE HELP PLEASE I'M AT WITS END!!!
 
How odd.... Id say that unfortunately unless it gets better you may ned to find another loan horse!

Maybe if she didnt go to the yard for a while he would begin to trust you as he wouldnt see her all the time?
 
Sound like he's taking the mick! How long has she had him? My mare does strop if m away for a week but isnt like that.

How long have u been trying with him? By the sounds of things you just need time with him for him to get used to you without the owner being there
 
My mare is like this with people she doesn't know or like.
You either have to start from scratch (without the owner) building a relationship with him, or admit he's not for you and find a different loan horse.
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he doesn't sound ideal for you, tbh. sorry, but he sounds as if he's nervous and needs a firm hand or only trusts his owner. not ideal at all, sorry. don't let him jolt your confidence, just ride him in the school for a bit maybe if possible until you have a better understanding with him?
 
yeah been trying for a month i go down every day and groom him and feed him and she has been down a couple of times but he doesn't seem to be taking to me i have been very firm and persistent but cant see any improvment but it seems like he just wont do anything without her there i took him out sunday and when she was out of sight he froze and as hard and trying to push him forward he just rears and goes mad.
i dont give up but it's getting dangerous now :~(
 
sometimes "winning" is seeing a situation absolutely clearly and being smart enough not to get hurt, or let the horse get hurt. if you are trying your very best (which it sounds as if you are) and he's still not playing ball, he is not the horse for you. very simple. find another horse on loan, there are lots out there. sorry if that sounds defeatist, but i think it's sensible!
 
It's a compatability issue, not a personal failing, so don't take it to heart. Look elsewhere for a horse that builds your confidence rather than leaves you doubting yourself.

The right one for you is out there, but it's not this one.
 
I agree as I took on a loan horse last September -nearly a year now yippee
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- anyway the owner was there if I needed her and has been really kind. No interfering -which sorry it sounds like this lady is- and being there for me if I need her.
I have always said she is welcome anytime to see me or the horse and I have kept her up to date with pics etc.
However Doug has not taken the piss with me apart from a few times on one of his forelegs which he does not play ball with and starts being stupid when you lift it up etc. He does it for the farrier too but it is not an injury or discomfort as he was seen by a vet before I had him and given a once over so I just think he is taking the michael as so does the farrier as he stops it if you give him a talking too.
He can be nappy when ridden out on his own but this could be due to the fact he may not have had much riding alone as I believe he has jumped around courses in the past and has been used in hunts so therefore has been around a lot of horses.
At no time have I ever felt like giving up or that he is being dangerous and he has never kicked me, bitten me, bucked when ridden or reared.
He does trust me and I trust him and even though he can be very aloof and no where near as loving as the cob we have I have promised him a home for life and I will stick to that and I love him to bits.
I have only posted all the above because I wanted to tell you something from a loanee's point of view. I had no intention of loaning as I wanted a horse of my own and for my daughter but I decided to go and see him and was smitten and that was it.
I am sorry to say but it does sound like he is not the horse for you.
If he is rearing like that he has no consideration for you whatsover and that could mean he may place you one day in a position of considerable danger. I am not over hyping this as you are no doubt aware rearing horses are very dangerous because even if they don't really mean to do what they are doing if they lose their balance and tipple over there is a good chance you may still be on board
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I also feel as though the owner - unless they have horses on the same yard as you or else have insisted he remains at the same yard etc- is being too interfering and not giving you two the chance to bond.
Either she is being over protective or else feels as though her presence there is comforting to you. Either way by the sounds of it her presence and then disappearance is causing the horse distress leaving you to pick up the pieces which is very unfair.
I hate to say this but I think you should tell the owner it is not working out and look for another horse.
Good luck
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