HELP !! any tips for getting antibiotics into a horse

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Hi,

went to the farm this morning to be greated with a big fat swollen tendon, filled solid to the hock que panic. Took her out into open light to see dried trickles of blood down her help so hibiscrubed and washed it off to find a puncture wound on her hind tendon. Quick phone call to the vets and off we went luckily it had missed everything important and was just infected so she recieved a massive injection of antibiotics to start the treatment off then 2x daily sachets of antibiotics to start this evening for 5 days.

Heres the problem which i had considered we could face as she wont take bute in her feed either but this is a whole other level she literally put her head to her feed smelt the antibiotics and picked the bucket up and flung it i tried to disguise it with tasty treats but shes to clever. Then tried coreing an apple out once again sniffed the apple and walked off. Planning to ring the vets to see if i can have another form of antibiotic ie: injection as i cant get them in her. Is this viable will they allow me to inject her or will they have to come and do it? Or has anyone any other suggestions to try. I want to return the sachets really so im not charged for anymore than the ones ive already seen as though she wont take them in feed.

Sorry for rambling and suggestions welcome

thanks for reading
 
  • either Yogurt to give the bute/ Danilon or anti biotics
  • also diluting the Danilon / anti biotics in warm water and squirting it into mouth.
  • Diluting the Danilon anti biotics is speedy beet juice
  • Give him a sandwich with Diabetic jam
  • is he likes chocolate you could try diabetic biscuits crushed and mix danilon anti biotics in
  • sugar free apple juice:)
 
Mix with pureed baby food, like apple and carrot, and syringe into back of mouth. My mare loved the flavour so much that after a few days she was practically opening her mouth for me to syringe it in!

You could make your own puree by peeling and cooking apples until they are mush.
 
Get a bowl, big glob of molasses, little splash of water + drugs, mix it all up to a thick black gloomy paste and syringe it. I find the antibiotics (presume Equipalazone/ Norodine/ similar) take 2-3 50ml syringes full as there's just so much of it but with enough molasses they don't mind
 
Mix more meal so she can't smell it, or put it in syringe and add water and mix and put in her like a wormer. Best of luck with her. Sometimes they try your patience don't they lol, hope all heals soon, healing vibes for your girl.
 
Toasted marmite sandwich, the strong smell of the marmite disguises the smell and taste of any meds, is good for them and my 2 love it. (the marmite)
For future reference give marmite sandwich just as a treat, then she won't be suspicious of you bearing 'gifts'
 
Danilon is disgustingly bitter so not surprised horses won't eat it. My horse won't either and, sorry to say, once they've decided they're not going to, there's absolutely nothing you can hide it in or on. Accept that it will have to be forced down your horse either by mixing the powder up in eg apple sauce and squirting it down his throat using an old worming tube or buy the Danilon tubes off your vet. Have to say, I've tried the mix-it-yourself method and have had a pig of a job getting the stuff into the tube...as you try to get the plunger back in, the goop starts to squeeze out of the nozzle. Hold it upright so the nozzle is in the air and you obviously can't dribble the goo into the tube. Unless you remembered to keep the end of the wormer tube and have endless time and patience and a calm and sane outlook on life, you might as well give up and get the tubes from the vet. Only trouble is, Danilon granules from my vet cost £5 per sachet...the tubes cost £18 EACH! Wish they'd invent a Danilon pessary which is what I've wanted to do with the granules after half an hour or so!
 
My horse didn't like her antibiotics and kept tipping her feed bowl over. I grated lots of carrots and mixed the antibiotic powder with them and then mixed in with her usual feed.
 
Mixing with water is to thin for syringing, it can run out of mouth.
Mix with apple purée into a paste its easier to keep in mouth.
Cut off some of the syringe nozzle to make hole bigger if using granules that may block it up.
 
Another one for shringe ... buy the biggest you can find (big barrel one), mix with apple juice (or similar) and give it like a wormer ... ;)
 
You could try golden syrup sandwiches- works quite well as is very sweet. Or, try mixing with a bran mash, sugar beet, and cool mix. Always make sure they are very hungry before trying.

I'm sure I gave antibiotics for a sinus infection years ago with injections. Vet told me how and where to inject. This worked okay for the first couple of times but then they get clever and know what's coming - then the fun and games start and in the end it becomes such a problem that you can't get near them. I used to dread having to do it. Best to stick with the powders.
 
Box_Of_Frogs said:
Danilon is disgustingly bitter so not surprised horses won't eat it. My horse won't either and, sorry to say, once they've decided they're not going to, there's absolutely nothing you can hide it in or on. Accept that it will have to be forced down your horse either by mixing the powder up in eg apple sauce and squirting it down his throat using an old worming tube or buy the Danilon tubes off your vet. Have to say, I've tried the mix-it-yourself method and have had a pig of a job getting the stuff into the tube...as you try to get the plunger back in, the goop starts to squeeze out of the nozzle. Hold it upright so the nozzle is in the air and you obviously can't dribble the goo into the tube. Unless you remembered to keep the end of the wormer tube and have endless time and patience and a calm and sane outlook on life, you might as well give up and get the tubes from the vet. Only trouble is, Danilon granules from my vet cost £5 per sachet...the tubes cost £18 EACH! Wish they'd invent a Danilon pessary which is what I've wanted to do with the granules after half an hour or so!
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£5 a sachet!:eek: I would be getting a prescription and getting it off the internet .
My vets charge under a £1 per sachet.

I actually tasted Danilon once and it wasn't bitter (unlike Bute) but sort of apple flavoured. It isn't difficult to fill the syringe, just keep your thumb over the nozzle whilst you fill it about three-quarters full, then put the plunger in gently. Leaving a bit of empty space at the top means you leave room for the plunger without squirting it out of the other end. Simples! It's best to use a larger syringe than a wormer one - get a big cattle syringe from your local farm shop or the vet.
 
Just to clarify: The Op was posting about antibiotics, not anti inflamatory drugs. Equine antibiotics are very expensive and usually come in enormous sachets which are difficult to disguise in any feed due to their bulk. The ones you can buy from the vet which come in a tube (like a wormer) are even more expensive. Then, of course, you can get the injectable form which again are not cheap.
 
Mix in a paste and suck up into a syringe or pour in the top of the syringe then administer like a wormer - molasses works pretty well
 
Hi sorry to hear about your horse I had exactly the same problem as you. Firstly Butterscotch Angel delight use quarter of a sachet mix the meds in syringe down his throat. Then switch to danalon and I used Karidox liquid antibiotics its for chickens and pigs apparently but I was on it a month. I spent hundreds in the first week of my lads injury and hours daily trying to get meds in him and these worked having tried everything else once he knew I was up to something he wouldn't touch his feed x
 
Sorry to hear of your problems. I had one like that. I use several vets (according to their area of expertise) and so consulted the general large animal practitioner on this one as he is the "no nonsense" sort.

His eyes rolled skywards and he gave a big sight of exasperation, then said, "She'll eat it if she's hungry enough".

Well, sometimes one has to be cruel to be kind. I felt a real brute -- but it worked! I divided the dose up into several small meals, mixed it in really thoroughly, and fed it over a couple of days. Job done.:D

I now feed all wormer that way too as it saves a lot of hassle. All I need do is separate them off and make sure they eat every scrap of their hard feed.
 
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