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Advice needed on how high I should bid on equissage unit on ebay. Physio has advised one and I have found a few on ebay.
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I did try that on another item - but sale ended before my bid was` in!

Have you any idea how much a slightly used one is worth? They seem to have fairly high reserves.
 
Get yourself a watch wirh a second hand and practise watching the clock on other items. Check the speed of the computer by pressing refresh several times in a row. See how many seconds it is taking and this gives a clue as to how long it will take. Decide on your maximum bid, ignore the price of the item as you have to outsnipe other people who may be doing the same. For example its no good putting in a price £10 higher on an expensive item. you would probably have to go about £300 higher unless the price is very high in the first place. Type it in and press continue unitl you have the confirm bid sign on the screen. Watch clock and 5 seconds to go, press confirm bid. (If your computer takes 20 seconds to refresh (mine takes about 5) then I would confirm bid a bit earlier say 10 seconds to go. But the key thing is you have everything set up and just have to confirm your bid. Its called sniping.
Practise on something cheaper first!
Or you use a snipe program. But I think they spoil the game!


Have you got an experienced ebayer who could do it for you?
I have a friend who uses 2 screens, clocks eetc and bids with secs to go. Hes an expert sniper! He also has very fast broadband which helps!

"runs off to find equissage on ebay!"
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When i was looking for one, they seemed to go for around £1500 on ebay. I ended up buying a new one but you need to bid quite high.
 
Lots of people have different views on them. I was a bit sceptical but having bought one, it has made a tremendous difference to my horse. He is far more relaxed through his back and we certainly dont get the physio out nearly so often. I think they are a great bit of kit if you can afford it.
 
We bought ours last Sept at Burghley and also got the leg boot and the car pad along with the horse pad and hand held unit.... think the total price was something along the lines of £2783.00.....

Sad thing is, having the time to actually use it! Think its been on the horses back twice! We use the car pad more for ourselves!!!!
 
My physio told me if one was available (I had told her that a friend would let me use hers), then it would give the horse a pleasent massage, but not to "waste (my) money on one" because it only works superficially and isn't very useful!
 
Physios would say that they aren't that good 'cos if everyone had one they would all be out of business!!!
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I have had mine for over 3 years now and have made a big difference to my horses and have made tons of money going out and treating other peoples horses, wouldn't be without it! The machine is a 'sports physiotherapy machine' and is actual hospital technology - they usually go for about £1500 complete and second hand but if there are 2 people who want it... who knows??
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I have had mine for over 3 years now and have made a big difference to my horses and have made tons of money going out and treating other peoples horses, wouldn't be without it!

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So, can anyone buy one and charge to 'treat' others horses?
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I was looking to buy either the Equissage or magnetic pulse rug. I asked 2 very well known horse vets (based in Newmarket and Liverpool) which one they would advise and they both independantly said the magnetic pulse rugs as they had scientific findings to support the product. It seems that the equissage is "nice" and will have its benefits but the pulse rugs are theraputic and have much more uses as there are numerous settings. They were both around the same price so I chose the rug.
 
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Physios would say that they aren't that good 'cos if everyone had one they would all be out of business!!!

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What a load of crap.
I have an Equissage and rate it highly. However all they can do is loosen and warm up, they are no use at all unless you have a physio to treat the horse.
They are no substitute for proper analysis and treatment on a horse, but they help in that they continue to loosen up the problem areas before work.
 
Thanks for that. My computer refresh is mega slow - that is probably what went wrong.

Ignorant here - what is a snipe program?
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Google bidbullet! Or snipe ebay. Basically you put in your maximum bid and the computer program puts the bid in at the last second automatically! You dont even have to be there.

Its hard to compete against these programs and lots of people use them now. But you have to pay for them. Not sure how much but some give a free trial. If your computer is really slow it might be worth it. Not sure really though as Ive never used one.

The other thing that is worth knowing is that if someone says something is advertised else where they may be open to offers. Several people I know who do ebay seriously use it as cheap advertising. They expect to get offers and will pull it off if they get the reserve price.

Ive often had people make offers for things but dont accept unless listing is finished. Just have to be a bit careful!
Some people will also tell you the reserve if you ask. But then you have to remember that other people may also know the reserve! So you bid a bit more at the last second!! Not that im an ex-ebay addict or anything!!
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Like I said... I have had it for 3 years and have treated loads of different horses / ailments and even get refferals from the vets and the chiropractor! I didn't just buy it and call myself an expert, I did my homework first.
 
I have treated 2 horses that were going to be put down as the vets didn't know what was wrong with them and the owners couldn't afford the cost of the trip and scans needed to try to see what the underlying cause of the problems were. As they had nothing to lose and I came highly reccommended they decided on a course of 3 treatments to start with, (different owners and different symptoms) both horses are still doing well 12+ months on after having severe muscle damage in different areas loosened and 'unlocked'. The Equissage does a hell of a lot more than warm up and warm down etc. but if you don't have a varied group of cases how is the average horse owner supposed to find out what it can do?
 
Ps... I do agree that they aren't a substitute for proper diagnosis but when the vet throws his hands in the air and you have nothing to lose, wouldn't you give it a go?
 
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The Equissage does a hell of a lot more than warm up and warm down etc. but if you don't have a varied group of cases how is the average horse owner supposed to find out what it can do?

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Thats just the thing. I know that, because I probably use it on 20+ different horses a year. Its convicing the pleasure horse owners that dont see a variety of horses that is the problem.
I dont think quoting from cases like that are beneficial to Equissage's reputation - anyone with half a brain will probably guess its the time that has done the trick, and will not believe anything you say otherwise.
 
I don't understand what you mean with your last paragraph re quoting the cases and the time doing the trick *sorry* can you be a bit clearer or is it just me being dumb? (Have had a busy day at work instead of enjoying the sun!)
 
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I have treated 2 horses that were going to be put down as the vets didn't know what was wrong with them and the owners couldn't afford the cost of the trip and scans needed to try to see what the underlying cause of the problems were. As they had nothing to lose and I came highly reccommended they decided on a course of 3 treatments to start with, (different owners and different symptoms) both horses are still doing well 12+ months on after having severe muscle damage in different areas loosened and 'unlocked'. The Equissage does a hell of a lot more than warm up and warm down etc. but if you don't have a varied group of cases how is the average horse owner supposed to find out what it can do?

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I think it is great that you have helped so many horses and people, but I have to admit I find it quite scary that someone with zero qualifications (correct me if I'm wrong) can be charging for giving horses 'treatments' with an Equissage machine.
 
The main thing that the makers say is that you can't do any harm with the machine so you don't need qualifications - that's why they can be sold to the general public. Sometimes experience counts for a lot and I very quickly learned how to watch for what a horse was *saying*(?) when the hand unit was in certain places on the body. You do have to concentrate and watch closly but the horse will let you know when you are in an area that needs treatment (licking and chewing, yawning, stretching, giving you their full attention or just cocking an ear in your direction are some of the clues). There are loads of things that I can't and never will be able to do but watching horses and picking up the clues is something I, personally am very good at. I am not saying that everyone will be confident and able to go and treat other peoples horses and charge for it, but I feel very justified in doing so and have the reccommendations to show for it.
 
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I am not saying that everyone will be confident and able to go and treat other peoples horses and charge for it, but I feel very justified in doing so and have the reccommendations to show for it.

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I don't see what confidence has to do with it. I'm sorry but renting out an equissage machine for cash and presenting yourself as someone able to give 'treatments' based on very basic observation of horse behaviour and charging are two VERY different things. Really quite frightening.

I would also be VERY VERY surprised to hear a vet recommend someone like you.
 
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How does one get qualifications for an Equissage unit? Maybe experience is the only way?

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I mean qualifications regarding equine anatomy and the way the muscles, etc work! ANYONE can use an Equissage, what I am finding rather odd is that a vet would recommend remedial work on a horse from someone who has no affiliation with a professional body and no qualifications that enable them to work on a horse.
 
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