Help for a numpty... Teaching quarters in?

[applestroodle]

Ok my guy can now happily leg yield & sholder in so the last couple of days I have been trying to teach him quarters in just in walk but when I move my outside leg he is either try to canter or leg yields away so we are both in a bit of a muddle!! Please keep it simple if possible, thank you!!

 

[Romax]

Quarters-in = travers, right?

Okay so theoretically how to:
Start with horse walking (upping pace as you and horse get more confident) actively, maintaining impulsion with your inside leg.
Use the corners of the school to help you set your horse, if you are starting on the left rein then as your horse's shoulder just comes out of the corner ask for the Travers.
Move your outside leg back slightly behind the girth to ask the horses hindquarters to move inwards.
Keep your inside leg on the girth in order to maintain impulsion and maintain a small amount of bend or flexion to the inside.
Your outside rein will balance the horse, control the bend, keep the horse traveling in a straight line and support the riders leg, and your inside rein will maintain a soft inside bend to the left. Adjust as necessary.
When you have ridden a few steps and you wish to end the Travers bring the horses shoulder in line with the quarters and ride away.
Start off with a few strides and then gradually build them up until you can maintain Travers up the long side of the school.

 

[abitodd]

Quarters-in = travers, right?

Okay so theoretically how to:
Start with horse walking (upping pace as you and horse get more confident) actively, maintaining impulsion with your inside leg.
Use the corners of the school to help you set your horse, if you are starting on the left rein then as your horse's shoulder just comes out of the corner ask for the Travers.
Move your outside leg back slightly behind the girth to ask the horses hindquarters to move inwards.
Keep your inside leg on the girth in order to maintain impulsion and maintain a small amount of bend or flexion to the inside.
Your outside rein will balance the horse, control the bend, keep the horse traveling in a straight line and support the riders leg, and your inside rein will maintain a soft inside bend to the left. Adjust as necessary.
When you have ridden a few steps and you wish to end the Travers bring the horses shoulder in line with the quarters and ride away.
Start off with a few strides and then gradually build them up until you can maintain Travers up the long side of the school.

Thanks!.....But another numpty here and I have tried the above(or thought I did!) and horse thinks I want canter. What am I doing wrong?

 

[Romax]

Thanks!.....But another numpty here and I have tried the above(or thought I did!) and horse thinks I want canter. What am I doing wrong?

Without seeing it, my first thought would be that your outside leg is too far back and it's then coming forward after you try to give the aid. If you keep the outside leg consistent just behind the girth backing up your 'squeeze' across then you should end up with a transition.
I know I said above that an nice active walk is desired to start with but if horse still tries to change gait making the walk less forward might help.

 

[abitodd]

Mmm....I do tend to over aid(leg too far back) because he is a big horse and i'm a bit of a numpty rider. Next time I try travers I will pay attention to my outside leg after the ask.
Many thanks Romax!

 

[charlie76]

I would keep him in a slower walk to start with. An exercise that Really helps is To ride shoulder in down the long side. At e or b ride a ten metre circle to get the horse listening To the outside aids, come out of the circle and ask fot travers, be happy with the smallest effort
All Just watch that You Are not loosing the outside rein and getting to much bend. You need to think about the fore legs still travelling down the track and not off it.

 

[charlie76]

Sorry was supposed to finish with....If You take the forelegs off the track it swings the hind quarters away making it almost impossible to ride the movement

 

[applestroodle]

Brilliant thank you, that answers a few of my questions and i think my outside leg is coming to far back as i too am getting a canter transition!! I have been trying to do it on the long side so will go to trying it on a corner. Sometimes he trys to leg yield away from my leg instead of just moving his quarters in, does that mean i need more inside leg? Thank you huge help!!