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I have a cavalier king charles spaniel 3 year old bitch. A couple of months ago she started losing her hair around her back end and tail and she was constantly itchy.
First thought of course was fleas and although i couldn't spot any, i double dosed frontline.
Anyhow i think its getiing worse. She's losing hair right up behind her front legs now. Her skin is looking really flaky. What is this?? Should i go to vet??
 
Could be a large number of things - I would get her to the vet and get his/her opinion, they might need to take skin scrapings etc to find out what it is.

What do you feed her on? Mum's CKCS tend to find protein rich foods too much for them and have in the past developed itchiness as a reaction to their food?
 
It isnt unusual for them to develop a reaction to food later on in life, even though they have had the same thing for a long time? Thats cavaliers for you
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I would just pop her to the vets to make sure and set your mind at rest
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Why would 2 doses work any better than one? and who said it was OK to do that? My vet is very careful to only provide the correct dose for my dogs weights and even when Lizzie came to me full of fleas she only got the normal dose. If it's the spot-on it is absorbed into the dogs blood stream so you really shouldn't give double of what is essentially a toxin.

It sounds like an allergy or just a dry skin condition? You can get a nice soothing shampoo from the vets which moisturises their skin if it's just a case of dry itchy skin.
 
I did not do one after the other, i left 10 days and repeated the spot on frontline. Vet has okayed in the past when i rehomed a cat with a flea infestation. Vet said to repeat dose within 2 weeks.
 
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I have a cavalier king charles spaniel 3 year old bitch. A couple of months ago she started losing her hair around her back end and tail and she was constantly itchy.
First thought of course was fleas and although i couldn't spot any, i double dosed frontline.
Anyhow i think its getiing worse. She's losing hair right up behind her front legs now. Her skin is looking really flaky. What is this?? Should i go to vet??

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Sorry but you should have seen a vet in the first instance. Food allergy is possible and certainly Bakers is not a quality feed. Royal Canin do a CKCS breed specific kibble to address known problems within the breed relating to diet.

CKCS have a host of inherited diseases many can be a cause of skin problems as you describe. Auto Immune Thyroiditis being common and can lead to symtoms as you describe. Addisons. And others. Your vet should be familiar with the breeds genetics, and if not a referral to the AHT could be in order.

Frontline double dose within 2 weeks. NOT to be done unless under direct veterinary supervision. May have been prescribed for a cat with a flea infestation but not for a dog who has a health issue and who's immune system may be compromised.
 
I am going to take her too the vet this evening. She is otherwise healthy btw. Alert and lively as ever.
I have been thinking actually, this hair loss started when my OH was doing some concreting at our stables. I have a feeling that this caused the initial reaction and it has caused skin to flake so its an ongoing problem now.
I will let you know what vet says later.
 
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[CKCS have a host of inherited diseases many can be a cause of skin problems as you describe. Auto Immune Thyroiditis being common and can lead to symtoms as you describe. Addisons. And others. Your vet should be familiar with the breeds genetics, and if not a referral to the AHT could be in order.


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I could not disagree with this more - as my mum is one of the foremost breeders of CKCS, I would be well aware if Auto Immune Thyroiditis and Addisons were "common" and they are certainly not
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In addition Royal Canin is one of the food makes which my mum now deliberately avoids, specifically because it set off a reaction leading to itching in her dogs
 
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I could not disagree with this more - as my mum is one of the foremost breeders of CKCS, I would be well aware if Auto Immune Thyroiditis and Addisons were "common" and they are certainly not
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In addition Royal Canin is one of the food makes which my mum now deliberately avoids, specifically because it set off a reaction leading to itching in her dogs

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We geneticists would welcome a CKCS breeder then whose stock is completely and certified clear of SM; KS (dry eye) and AIT response; Rough Coat syndrome; Luxating Patella; Thrombocytopenia; and Mitral valve disease. And has been clear for at least 10 generations. It would be of great health in research statistics.
 
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Just out of interest splotchy, what does your mum feed her cavs??

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To be totally honest I dont know now - she has changed quite a few times over the years
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Sorry!
 
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We geneticists would welcome a CKCS breeder then whose stock is completely and certified clear of SM; KS (dry eye) and AIT response; Rough Coat syndrome; Luxating Patella; Thrombocytopenia; and Mitral valve disease. And has been clear for at least 10 generations. It would be of great health in research statistics.

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Oh I am quite sure "you geneticists" would
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Oh I am quite sure "you geneticists" would
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Sarky sarky - it was a matter of fact statement by one of many scientists helping many breeds who have patterns of inherited disease as being "one of the top CKCS" breeders in the UK you will be fully aware of the sad reputation of your own breed. Many conditions now have genetic markers and enable responsible breeders to screen stock.

While you may be smug about your own lines remember the Impressive syndrome. It will not be long before the KC make DNA testing compulsory for registrations, not just for frequently used sires, but also in breeds with known inherited diseases which can only be a good thing for the benefit of future generations.
 
We have been calling for the KC to make DNA testing compulsory for years. And only to register puppies from suitably well-scored hip and elbow tested parents. And to have working qualifications compulsory for lead positions in the top classes. Oh well......



And I wouldn't call them Splotchy's breed, ooh er!!!!!!
 
Please read my OP in this thread
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I am not, and never will be, a CKCS breeder in any shape or form - my mum is. As far the reputation of the breed is concerned, I am aware of the "sad reputation" which is perpetuated by certain ill-informed media representatives, and I am also aware of the truth of the matter.

As as far as the KC making anything like DNA testing mandatory, they are about as much use as a chocolate teapot where that sort of initiative is concerned, it has been proven time and time again in CKCS and in other breeds
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As CC says, responsible breeders have been trying to get the KC to bring in compulsory DNA testing, health checks etc for years, would be great if it were to happen but I won't hold my breath.
And re cavaliers, is luxating patella caused by AI, because it seems to be a really common problem in JRTs .
 
An update on Mia (my cav).
Vet says allery probably to cement at yard a few weeks ago. She is fine in weight, heart and eyes as she gets loads of exercise.
Vet gave her a steroid jab, some predinale tablets and some penicillin to start tomorrow. She has also given me antifungal and antibacterial shampoo to use twice weekly.
She had no problem in me flea treating her like i did and thought it "very sensible for the time of year". She also said to keep feeding her what i am as she is an ideal weight and looks good on it............apart from the bald patches!!
I hope it clears up soon now............
 
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Thanks for the update, best of luck with her
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sorry about the politics
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Thats fine.........i didn't expect to cause such a fuss. It's worse on this dog section than the horse section!!
Entertaining though!!
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And sorry from me too, cos I was the one wot started it
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Glad you have got some positive news from your vet, hope all goes well with her treatment
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