Help, my injured horse is refusing to be rested

Ahrena

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My 15 year old gelding, Squirrel, is on 5 months off with collaterial liagement damage. As far as ligamet damage goes, its fairly minor and we're almost 4 months done.

He goes out in a small pen - I was told to make it small enough to disourage him to trot. Well he has steadily become more and more bolshy and naughty and today was the final straw and frankly I'm not sure what to do with him.

Now usually this horse is Mr Horizontal, could pop your granny on him for a hack with your baby and not bat an eyelid. Was fed 2 scoops of racemix over the summer when he wasd eventing and he was still lazy!

However about a month ago he became a Holy Terror to lead up to his pen, bucking and leaping ect so we moved the pen very close to the yard. He then spent a week escaping from said pen but I've made it fairly escape proof now (1.50m electric fencing with 3 strands). I move the pen weekly to try and keep the ground as good as pos as he gets given hay frequently whilst he's out to ensure he's got plenty to eat. I also put my old retired mare in with him so he's not alone (she's got navicular anyway so doesn't harm her to be in a small space!)

We obviously reduced his feed, hes just on chaff and we also put him on a calmer about 3 weeks ago (not sure off the top of my head which 1, but its not magnesium based as he isn't hyper usually so I figured its not due to a defeciency or anything, and he is still on supplements including a general multivit). He goes out sort of 8-3.30.

I've just spent the best part of a week in hospital and when I went up this morning I was greeted by the Savage Beast. As soon as he was done with his breakfast he was kicking the crap out the door (never done this before in his life), as soon as I changed his rug and went to change the mare's rug he was bucking and squealing in his stable. When I put him out, he span round, cantered off as far as he could, jumped straight out of his pen (1.50m), galloped up to the top of the fields, jumped into his old, thankfully empty, field and went to town in there.

I could kill him. He was quiet when I caught him and has been fine all day now its out his system...but this is clearly not doing him any good! He had such a cheeky expression on his face after I caught him too...

So now I'm getting frustrated with him though. Obviously he's bored, but there's not much I can do about it.

I think I'll phone my vet but I guess my options are pretty much

1) Box rest. He won't be happy but he won't hurt himself
2) Turn out in a normal field and hope he stays fairly quiet
3) Turn out24/7 but he would have to be out individually as none of my others can live out (there's other horses who live out but I wouldn't want to put him in with the fo just 6 weeks and he isn't very keen on being alone, even with horses next door). Vet also said it would be good for him to come in at night to rest.
4) Some kind of sedation, but for 6 weeks??
5) See if I can start walk work now and perhaps that stimulation would be enough to keep him quiet.
6) Keep going and hope for the best!

He clearly isn't ready for retirement yet!! I mean I can double fence his pen so he won't try and jump out again BUT it still doesn't stop him hooning in his pen and I do worry that the 2 strides of canter, skid to stop, turn and repeat is worse than him just cantering.
 
Personally I'd turn him out, if possible 24/7. If he's normally laid back then I would have thought after the intial "wahoo" then he would settle down again :)
 
Personally I'd turn him out, if possible 24/7. If he's normally laid back then I would have thought after the intial "wahoo" then he would settle down again :)

Me too. Mine lives out 24/7 year round. Moving around slowly but fairly constantly, rests plenty, lies down plenty. I am always mildly envious of people who get photos of their horses running around doing spectacular leaps, because horses on full turnout pretty well never run. I think your boy is more likely to injure himself with the "rebound movement" effect after being penned up than he is if on full turnout. Stick him out in a field with a quiet companion, and leave him to it.
 
It's a difficult one. We've had this problem with two of ours in recent months. In both cases I bit the bullet in the end and just turned them out. They normally run as a small herd by day - two that are here all the time are in an enclosed yard and barn at night, 2 tinies join them from elsewhere 9am-4pm.

I made sure that the injured one (one of the in-at-nighters) had a VERY small breakfast and no hay. So when it was time to go I just walked her out of the yard - the field comes right up to the yard and slipped the head collar off. She trotted about 3 steps, and a 30 yard canter up the field, and then remembered that a horse's primary duty is to eat! Down went the head, and that was that. She is now, instead of being a stomping, cross misery-guts, causing damage to everything in the yard and herself, a laid back convalescent who grazes quietly all day and is glad to come in to her small feed and hay and warm bed at dusk.

It may not work for yours, but I think it is worth the risk of just trying it??
 
I would lay out the options to the vet and see what they think. Perhaps rather than box rest you could do walking in hand twice a day, and a bit of hand grazing too.

If 24 hour turnout maybe sedate slightly for just the first time - ask vet for advice.

A very difficult situation, I wish you luck!
 
Me too. Mine lives out 24/7 year round. Moving around slowly but fairly constantly, rests plenty, lies down plenty. I am always mildly envious of people who get photos of their horses running around doing spectacular leaps, because horses on full turnout pretty well never run. I think your boy is more likely to injure himself with the "rebound movement" effect after being penned up than he is if on full turnout. Stick him out in a field with a quiet companion, and leave him to it.

I had this problem with my TB x Hanoverian chestnut (nutter of a..) mare 4 years ago. She tore a hole in her stifle from being a tart in the field showing off in front of boys. Anyway, she needed 6 months box rest for it to repair following a very expensive operation, however she had other ideas. First of all she jumped over her stable door, thus scraping all her back on the top of it, then played 'lets knock people over and run out the stable like a bat out of Hell', followed by kicking her door that hard she bruised all her knees. It was awful. That was all within a week and we were looking at 5 months 3 weeks more of it - wasn't going to happen. So I can understand your frustration and depair!

The vet just said put her in a field and let her get on with it. Don't coop her up in a small 'sick' paddock as she will just rebel and know she's meant to be in there, therefore she would want to get out ASAP. I just put her in her normal field with some 'calm' horses (one of which was 31 years old and couldn't really even muster a walk, let alone anything else) and the brought her in at night. It worked and because she was treated normally and it resembled her old routine, it helped keep her head in the right place.

The ligament healed better than it would have done if she had remained on box rest or in a special 'they've put me in here on purpose so I will play up' paddock. I hope that helps a bit :)
 
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