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jasmine

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Ok you fantastic people, I need some help.
I let my shiba, Isabel, off the lead, when we meet dogs OFF their leads, she just has a sniff but then carries on walking.
But if we meet a dog on the lead, she won't leave it alone :-( obviously if I'm quick enough, I will put her on the lead as well.
Because I've got numpty Ell as well, its quite difficult to get close enough to grab her :-(
Thanks in advance :-)
 
Unfortunately you will need to keep her on the lead until you can establish a stronger re-call. It's unfair on the dogs that are on the lead to have your dog approach them out of your control.

For better recall try rewarding her with the bestest treats ever (liver, cheese, etc) or a squeeky toy if she's more interested in that. Also play the recall game with her (two people, enclosed area, take it in turns to recall the dog and reward from a small distance). If all else fails you will need to use a long line but it's not easy to do with another dog on the lead as well.
 
Ditto all the above, espec. the long line. That way she can have a degree of freedom, you can practice the recall with the distraction of an on lead dog AND you can reinforce your command if/when she ignores!

If she's foody establish one favourite treat that she only ever gets when she recalls away from other dogs.
 
See, I think all the theory is great. My dog has fantastic recall when it blooming suits!!! She will do anything in the house for food or a squeaky toy and in the main is pretty good and enthusiastic at coming back when out on walks. However, IF she has set her sights on something, be it a rabbit, blackburds (her favourite) or another dog, she can be difficult to persuade that coming back to me is a better idea. She has nil interest in food out on walks - she can be toy/stick obsessed on walks so I try that tac but it doesn't ALWAYS work i have to admit. I generally find I have a split second to get her attention - and that's if I spot the dog before her - if i don't then she'll do her own thing! Just to add - I think she is getting better though.

Thankfully, where we walk - lots of bridleways/woodland and large fields etc we don't meet tonnes of dogs and the majority are off lead anyway. Also mine is not aggressive and, should another dog so much as grumble at her she'll leg it and pretend she wasn't interested anyway! I think it is hard if you walk in public parks and such like as you have to have your dog 100% recall wise (is that possible?) and have to think an react a lot quicker.

All I can suggest is as per the above - you have to try and find their 'thing' but sometimes even the tastiest titbit is just not interesting enough!!
 
Thanks for the advice, tonight I took some sausage and let her know I'd got it, only met two dogs, both off lead so no prbs.
It's just so strange that she leaves a dog off lead, but not on!!!!
Maybe its a shiba thing :-)
 
See, I think all the theory is great. My dog has fantastic recall when it blooming suits!!! She will do anything in the house for food or a squeaky toy and in the main is pretty good and enthusiastic at coming back when out on walks. However, IF she has set her sights on something, be it a rabbit, blackburds (her favourite) or another dog, she can be difficult to persuade that coming back to me is a better idea. She has nil interest in food out on walks - she can be toy/stick obsessed on walks so I try that tac but it doesn't ALWAYS work i have to admit. I generally find I have a split second to get her attention - and that's if I spot the dog before her - if i don't then she'll do her own thing! Just to add - I think she is getting better though.

Thankfully, where we walk - lots of bridleways/woodland and large fields etc we don't meet tonnes of dogs and the majority are off lead anyway. Also mine is not aggressive and, should another dog so much as grumble at her she'll leg it and pretend she wasn't interested anyway! I think it is hard if you walk in public parks and such like as you have to have your dog 100% recall wise (is that possible?) and have to think an react a lot quicker.

All I can suggest is as per the above - you have to try and find their 'thing' but sometimes even the tastiest titbit is just not interesting enough!!

Sadly, dog training is for the long haul....there are very few quick fixes. Consequently, you have to train the desired behaviour in a sterile/distracttion free environment (ie living room with no other dogs/people present); you then work through the 'criteria level' by upping the ante....so you then move the training into the garden, then onto the cricket pitch, then into the big wide yonder. You then want to start introducing distractions? Yup! So, you go back to the living room with whatever the distraction is for your dog (another dog present???) and repeat through the criteria levels again.

Yes, it takes time, but yes, it does work if you put the effort in and proof the behaviour at every level.

Take short cuts? You'll come a cropper!

PS Titbits don't do it for all dogs.....some prefer a game, others affection - physical touch, others verbal praise.....you have to work with whatever floats your dogs boat and don't provide it at any other time OTHER than as a reward for the behaviour you are training.
 
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