Herd Dynamics!

kazg07

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My 3 horses(geldings) had been together as a group for 10 years but sadly I lost one around 6 weeks ago. I did not plan on getting another horse so soon but the right one came along at a not so great time!
I kept the new boy separate(4 yr old) from my pony and my retired gelding(24). However, the youngster is stressy and wouldn't settle on his own spending his time pacing and galloping about. After 2 days, we introduced them and it didn't go well with the old boy charging at the youngster who is very submissive. This continued so I put the pony in with youngster and left the old boy on his own. This worked fine and for the next 4-5 days they seemed OK over the fence. At the weekend, we put them in together and the old guy was more accepting and had stopped charging at him, tolerating him fairly nearby and wasn't herding the pony away anymore. The old guy has always been boss and he is a very dominant character. The next few days went fine up until today. I received a call from my partner to ask why the youngster was in a different paddock. It would appear that the old guy has been chasing him again and he has gone over/through the fence and cut his hind leg. Thankfully, this appears to be superficial. I am going to have to separate them again. I've never seen a horse react so aggressively to a new one and am beginning to wonder if my old guy will ever accept him. The youngster is very very submissive and just runs away. I felt sorry for him tonight as he seemed very scared and I thought they had sorted out their differences. Just wondered if anyone has had similar, if I should keep trying or just keep the old boy seperate?
 

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Yes. My grey hated my gelding when he first arrived. I kept them and my other horses in the same paddock but split with an electric fence with grumpy bum one side and newbie the other side.

After two weeks she ignored his existence and I took the fence down with them hardly noticing to start with. She did finally notice and decided that she still wasn't that keen and would charge at him pulling the most awful faces. Then one day she just decided that she liked him after all and the new problem was that she now didn't want him to be taken away and would call after him.

So more time, plus keeping them safe in the meanwhile might help.
 

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Yes. My grey hated my gelding when he first arrived. I kept them and my other horses in the same paddock but split with an electric fence with grumpy bum one side and newbie the other side.

After two weeks she ignored his existence and I took the fence down with them hardly noticing to start with. She did finally notice and decided that she still wasn't that keen and would charge at him pulling the most awful faces. Then one day she just decided that she liked him after all and the new problem was that she now didn't want him to be taken away and would call after him.

So more time, plus keeping them safe in the meanwhile might help.
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That's what I am planning. It's odd as all seemed fine and he has just suddenly decided he hates the new boy again! Grumpy old bugger!!
 

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There's a thread from me somewhere with the same issue! I built a paddock for the newbie within the field so they could all meet over the fence. I then let her out with them whilst I was on the yard and could supervise and gradually increased the time. All besties now but it took weeks!
 

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There's a thread from me somewhere with the same issue! I built a paddock for the newbie within the field so they could all meet over the fence. I then let her out with them whilst I was on the yard and could supervise and gradually increased the time. All besties now but it took weeks!
Yes I did this but they obviously need more time as I don't want anyone getting injured!
 

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You haven't had the new one very long, I would leave them in separate paddocks, able to touch over the fence, for a while longer. Having said that I had 2 who physically fought and had to be separated permanently, which was a pain but at least we had 4, so could keep them in pairs.
 
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