Hi-Viz - wording

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I'm about to order a Hi-Viz tabard and I get a slogan slapped on the back, gratis ... what shall I have?

*Caution young horse*

does this have insurance implications or have I imagined that?! :o .... or

*Please pass wide and slow*

or does anyone have any other suggestions? I'm not loving the idea of the word 'wide' directly above my 'ample' derrierre tbh :p:p
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I like the PLEASE PASS WIDE AND SLOW then no implications about anything. I seem to think that it can have a bearing on Insurance and liability etc. In todays world I wouldnt be atall surprised.
 
My dad is a lawyer, he has always told us never to wear anything that says anything to do with horse either of the above automatically admit that you have a reason to think the horse will do something. It is the same with Dog signs on houses e.g beware dog enter at own risk would mean if someone was bitten by dog then you are responsible so its the same with the tabbards, you can have jokey ones with funny comments on, but I have always had to just have boring flurescent only as that is the safest, and generally people can't read them anyway!!
 
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Probably the most effective wording!
 
Either please pass wide and slow or just "caution" if you can find one.
My ones don't have any wording, just flourescents with reflective strips.

How is a non horsey person to know that young horses need extra space and slower etc?
 
to me just a good bright hi viz with hi viz leg straps hat band etc is what matters - as a driver i dont look at wording . I see the hi viz slow down and watch the horse to see how reacting so just wear the hi viz - and more riders should :)
 
I know a couple of people with the 'Policealike' ones - they're ace, but about £20 I think? where are they from?

Thanks for the advice everyone, much appreciated

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An L plate is the most effective, everyone understands it and can see it from a long way away. Personally I now never go on the road without full high viz on me, hat too (I spray the whole thing, a band is not the same) and a rug on the horse. Works a treat, even better if you have arms hi viz too, for some reason.
 
Any wording that indicates a horse may spook at traffic is admitting liability.

Such as

Caution young horse

The argument is that you are knowingly riding a horse that may be a risk to traffic etc so you are putting yourself and others at risk.

Even the word caution can indicate risk.

Simple wpording is best or none at all as like mentioned I too don't look at wording, I see the reflective jacket / waistcoat and immediately slow down.

I take in the mannerism of the horse, if its quiet and walking on I pass wide and slow, if its jumping around looks nervous I hang back until the horse settles then carefully overtake.

Mind this is a sore point in my area as the riders are so thoughtless, no reflective gear at all, wear dark colours on a dark horse and ride double on bends and narrow roads.. and when they turn right they cut across the road and occasionally look back to see if there are any cars behind them. :eek:

I see about 10% of riders with something reflective on but the majority don't seem to care. It really gets my hackles rising but I never say anything as I know I'd likely get a torrade of abuse.

When I could ride out I looked like a banana even in summer :D

I too love those vests that ssay POLITE and have the checks on the top. Does anyone know where to buy them?
 
my friend has one that says " beware, women with PMT" and another one that says "does my bum look big on this?" she has had some comments from drivers so they must be able to read the words. I have the one that says please pass wide and slow.
 
KS1 so agree with you - I have had some strong words with some on yard esp 2 riding dark horses in dark clothing - reply was " its a summers day" jesus i passed them under a dark bridge and nearly went up thier horses arses - was so angry and they got told. I can not and never will not understand why ppl do not wear hi viz winter or summer - its cheap and can save you and your horses life - its that simple.
 
kazhar said:
my friend has one that says " beware, women with PMT" and another one that says "does my bum look big on this?" she has had some comments from drivers so they must be able to read the words. I have the one that says please pass wide and slow.
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I've got those two although my PMT ones says - caution lady rider with PMT. I also have one that says 'if you drive up my bum, I'll sit on your bonnet' and another that says 'if you're close enough to read this you need a condom'
 
babymare said:
KS1 so agree with you - I have had some strong words with some on yard esp 2 riding dark horses in dark clothing - reply was " its a summers day" jesus i passed them under a dark bridge and nearly went up thier horses arses - was so angry and they got told. I can not and never will not understand why ppl do not wear hi viz winter or summer - its cheap and can save you and your horses life - its that simple.
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Ditto you can buy a vest for a couple of quid but oh dear for some its just not trendy.. ;)

What people don't realise is if the sun is at a particular angle you can't see horses ahead of you even on a clear wide road.

Where I am the road is narrow, with many bends in it, (great for bikers) and people do drive fast on these roads.

I often wonder how long it will be before there is a serious accident.

Why do people ride while talking on the phone with reins like washing lines while looking back to talk to there mates? The people roiund here even take kids out on rides with the same lack of care.. :eek:

Also it is common knowkedge when leading a horse to place the horse on your left, but no not here the horse goes on the right so if it spooks it gets hit.. Sorry I'm ranting now... :D best get off my soap box
 
Well either are better than the wording on mine, my ex's dad works for local county council, so on the back of mine is South tipp county council. he gave me his old ones, and i have pants to match. prob illegal to wear them, but just mite get something to cover it!!!!
 
I like the jokey ones but you can't have the "does my bum look big on this" as unless you're slim otherwise there are too many people saying yes.

I have please pass wide and slow which is appropriate as my friends ID is wide and my failed racehorse is slow.

Also liked one that I saw that said "just one bucking thing after another"
 
Im thinking about getting

'Slow Down, My Vet Is Expensive' but I think its a bit too long

I really like the POLITE ones too
They're from Equisafety I think
 
I rang my insurance company when I got my youngster to ask how they felt about young horse tabbards.

They told me that they were happy for me to wear "Caution Young Horse" because I was giving only a general caution.

They said that "Please pass wide and slow" is giving instructions on how to pass the horse which could leave me liable if there was an accident.
 
There isn't actually a legal precedent yet for wording on tabbards being considered as an admission. However you really don't want the arguement if you are involved in an accident so I would avoid anything that implies either you or your horse may not be 100% safe on the road and anything that tends to give instructions. That includes the L plate as that suggests you are inexperienced.

I would go simply for the warning sign (from the highway code - ! in a triangle) or something like caution or horses.

I wouldn't go for the jokey ones either, I don't think they give a great impression and could cause distraction.

I'd just think about the fact that potentially you could end up in court explaining your choice of wording to a judge if you are (heaven forbid) involved in an accident or traffic incident.
 
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