hitting...the other halfs story!!

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Just wanted to have my say....
Im the other owner of the youngster that was hit by the yo and can i just say that after reading the now closed thread im very disapointed in some people who are on a horse forum and apparently horse lovers yet agree to people hitting horses NOT disciplining, there is a difference its a time delay!!!!!!
And just to claify the situation I was cleaning the stable the yo took it upon herself to go into the field after being told not to the filly PLAYFULLY reared, after the yo left the feed down walked over to the fence, climbed over the fence (its bout 4ft for those of you who were wondering) then she turned round meanwhile the filly had followed her to the fence and was happily eating yo smacked her full wack and said that will teach her!! Definatly not wat i call teaching a horse manners???
 
I didnt reply to other post, but in my opinion and this is my opinion, i would not hit a youngster after too much time has elapsed. Not that i hit horses, but if they are naughty like has been said then fair enough, the ground rules need to be established. But as i say this is my opinion.
 
Oh NO not this again
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to be honest i dont agree with hitting/ whacking/whipping a youngster even any horse / animal/ human in fact , it to me is like rubbing a puppies nose in their wee, so counterproductive, i cant abide it, there are other methods and cruelty and human intolerance is not one of them, sorry i know you are going to all say discipline (sp) and i agree, disciple in the right and proper way but not down right agression. *right rant over
 
Why is the YO feeding the youngster,??? sorry but my yo never interfears with my horses feeding. I never posted on other thread, so am confused as to why YO would take it upon herself to feed your youngster when told not to, maybe you should move filly if YO cannot mind her own business and leave you to feed your own horse. Have you spoke to YO about this incident.
 
Ive never hit a horse and have no plans to, if mine misbehave I raise my voice and that is always enough. Ive a 4 year old and she can be a cow at times, but never once have I been tempted to raise a hand to her.

The YO has no business to discipline your horse, or any other horses. If this is her nature then I suggest you move the horse.
 
I'm not quick to smack a horse myself but I would NEVER chastise a horse for something after the event. It teaches the horse nothing but confusion!

Saw a friend's daughter cry on her pony as it "bucked". Five minutes later her mum walked into the school, asked her to get off the pony and then belted it several times with a crop. I was horrified....one for what she did per se, secondly because the pony had absolutely no idea what it was being smacked for and thirdly because the buck was nothing. My daughter wouldn't even have noticed it.

I was incensed and in your case I would be too. Yes, they need to be taught to respect people's personal space but there was a better way to handle it.
 
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She thought that it would settle her down , she normally goes for a burst of speed around the field and then settles down , so i guess she thought she was helping out

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Or maybe she was trying to save her field getting trashed?

Sounds like a very lively little rascal you have there.
 
Tia She was the one that suggested I put her out , if that was the case then why not say to me ? ? I still stick by my point that she shouldnt have done it , Timing , timing , timing !

Am I being Naive then to think that youngsters are not lively then ?
 
Oh mine are have their lively moments, as was witnessed in my splint post, LOL!! Whatever fun they have amongst themselves, and within their herd, is fine by me.

To be perfectly frank, it seems that timing is being used here as the only issue.....well I have to say, I do credit my horses with a memory span of quite a bit longer than a mere 5 minutes.....thank goodness they do, otherwise I'd have a heck of a job with their ridden and groundwork training, LOL!!
 
Not getting back into this again but good to hear your side of the story........... I agree with you totally, as I put in my 4 million or so posts yesterday!!!!..... HAVE A NICE DAY!!!
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like i said before, I would have liked her to have been disciplined straight away, But she jumped out of the field and was then whacked while she was eating ... I cant see how you think this is right ... It is about timing ... I mean you discipline her the moment she does something wrong not 1 minute, 3 minutes nor 5 minutes later .

Im not saying she didnt have a right to slap her but should have been done there and then , If she was frightened she should not have went into the field . End of .


Them spotties of yours is lovely by the way , used to know a spotty called dynamite and you know what they say dynamite by name dynamite by nature :P

So hopefully we can leave it at that , dont want to have to go explaining myself when its all there in black and white . 2 yr old running around me and dismantling everything in sight grrrrr
 
in my opinion i believe in this suituation it was wrong to 'disapline' as it was after the event but i do believe in disapline start after the event so's they know what they did wrong .....
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Ah well - it's all over and done with now, and hopefully won't be a situation that will happen again.

Good luck with your little mare.
 
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to be honest i dont agree with hitting/ whacking/whipping a youngster even any horse / animal/ human in fact , it to me is like rubbing a puppies nose in their wee, so counterproductive,

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Im sorry but this is so over the top! What methods of dicipline do you use? just out of curiosity?
 
Whilst I do keep my youngster in check, it is at the time of doing wrong and never after the event - If I cannot do it whilst he is in the wrong the I leave it.

All babies leap around rear and buck in the field - and mine also likes to pull fences down, hence my entire field had electric fencing round the inside now.

My YO had instructions to keep him walking nicely etc but I would not expect him to give him a hard hit unless he did something really naughty like kick or bite, and then the second he did it.
 
Firstly I belive in correcting youngsters at an early stage to ensure they are not dangerous, a strike on the head from a playfull foal could easily kill a human. So if your youngster is trying to play this way with humans, it needs addressing.

I would make it clear to your yard that you and only you are going to be doing the training, this way you can handle your horse in the manner that you choose.

I had a friend keep her two youngsters in one of my fields for a year. I did not go in there once. I kept away, I viewed it as her horses, her rules. Even when I was filling the water for my horses in ajoining fields and occasionally filling her water buckets did I as much as stroke her horses. They would come up being nosey and try and bite me. I did nothing, just moved out of reach. I would mention to her what they were up to, to enable her to deal with it.

I misread your orginal post and my reply was to say that in a dangerous field situation you have to give them a smack if needed. I had'nt realised it was after the event. Saying this your foal needs to learn respect and distance, which you obviously are dealing with.

My advice is to tell the others to keep away, you are dealing with it and the horse is being given clear instructions (aids) of your choosing and if they interfere and use other aids etc it will confuse the horse.

I would not be having big rows with people about this, just say you want to give precise training aids which will teach the horse correctly.

If your field is shared with others, you have a difficult problem on your hands. If I was going into a field with a foal rearing up at me, I would very wary and be afraid I may be injured or kicked. The way I have sorted my yearling out and taught her field manners is to turn her out with a couple of older horses, this had worked very well as they have taught her manners.

Good luck, try not to let this upset you too much, because you need to think long term about your relationship with the other people on your yard and you need their co-operation. If they turn against you, they wont listen and things may go backwards. We all feel protective over our horses and would feel like killing anyone that hurts them.
 
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