Homeopathic vets in gloucester ?

[Digger123]

Anyone used it?
Just wondered if it would help my horse. End of March we were hit by a car. Fortunately we weren't seriously injured.He was just bruised over hocks and some slight swelling to his rump. I came off worse, with cracked ribs and a very sore shoulder.
We called a vet out straight after the incident and he was quite happy and said no treatment was necessary at the time.
He was a bit stiff for a few days so we decided to turn him away for a month - we were going to do that anyway as he had been in most of the winter.
I have ridden him in the school a couple of times and he has been ok.
The problem is that he is absolutely frightened by any car with the engine running.
Just wondered if there was anything I could use that would help take the fear away.
Does anyone know of any homeopathic vets in gloucestershire.

 

[thoroughlybred1]

I dont know anyone in Glos, But Chris Day is Oxfordshire based and certainly used to travel to us (not far from Cheltenham)

 

[BethH]

What a terrible thing to have happen to you, glad you're both ok!

Just thought I'd mention this in case it's useful, but my horse was terribly anxious about things and especially hacking out alone (pain from undiagnosed Kissing spines causing all sorts of nightmares and seriously affected his confidence). He then lost his best friend and over the following 6 months became a quite low and depressed and even worse just couldn't cope with life outside his field.

I went in to a health shop and the women there mentioned an animal healer who shopped there and used the bach remedies. I phoned her and explained about my horse and she told me which essences to go and buy (4 of them in total!) and give I think 8 drops of each in both feeds. Sounds odd especially as I am a bit of a cynic about such things, but I think it really did help him. Bach's have a leaflet explaining what each essence helps with, there are loads of them, might be worth investigating as they are only £3 or £4 a bottle and there is also a pre-mixed one called courage, but this didn't seem as good as the other combination. I also used a tiny amount of valerian (lincoln sell it - not for competition use!) which is a great herbal calmer and both of these thiongs helped him to move forwards.

I hope you get your horse over this, it is so sad that someone's carelessness has inflicted this on your horse.

 

[spacefaer]

another vote for Chris Day - I can give you his details if you'd like - he is brilliant, being both a homeopathic and conventional vet

If you're considering the alternative route, another option to consider would be radionics (black box). I can't explain it - there is no reason why it should work - but it does seem to.

I sent some mane hair to a black box practitioner, and she diagnosed problems with a horse which the conventional vet later discovered.... dunnno how! She also managed to overcome "stage fright" in a dressage horse - we used to tell her when he was competing and she would work on him during his tests..... call me cynical, but he won everything when she was doing her thing!

I can give you her details too if you would like to have a go

 

[alsiola]

call me cynical

You are gullible.

 

[spacefaer]

You are gullible.

and you are offensive

There is no scientific proof for homeopathy, but it is generally accepted that it works. There is no scientific proof for radionics and I freely admit that its practitioners have yet to satisfactorily explain it to me. I can go into details of why I accept that it works if you want.... but none of this helps the OP in her struggle to rehabilitate her horse.

 

[alsiola]

There is no scientific proof for homeopathy, but it is generally accepted that it works.

There is plenty of scientific proof of homeopathy, unfortunately it is proof of its utter uselessness. In promoting this rubbish, you are denying this horse access to real medicine, that might be able to help it - this is a real barrier to rehabilitation that I find extremely offensive.

 

[alsiola]

Anyone used it?
Just wondered if it would help my horse. End of March we were hit by a car. Fortunately we weren't seriously injured.He was just bruised over hocks and some slight swelling to his rump. I came off worse, with cracked ribs and a very sore shoulder.
We called a vet out straight after the incident and he was quite happy and said no treatment was necessary at the time.
He was a bit stiff for a few days so we decided to turn him away for a month - we were going to do that anyway as he had been in most of the winter.
I have ridden him in the school a couple of times and he has been ok.
The problem is that he is absolutely frightened by any car with the engine running.
Just wondered if there was anything I could use that would help take the fear away.
Does anyone know of any homeopathic vets in gloucestershire.

I think that a veterinary behavioural specialist is likely to be most useful to you. They will be able to help you with counter-conditioning techniques, and prescribe any behaviour modifying drugs that may be appropriate. Please don't waste your money on homeopathy.

 

[Crazy Friesian]

I think that a veterinary behavioural specialist is likely to be most useful to you. They will be able to help you with counter-conditioning techniques, and prescribe any behaviour modifying drugs that may be appropriate. Please don't waste your money on homeopathy.

From you response It would appear that you have very little EXPERIENCE of homeopathy. If I relied totally on conventional veterinary assistance then the outcome of 2 very serious conditions would have been VERY different. Just because you dont understand something, do not dismiss it. It is a very dangerous blinkered view.

I am prepared to provide FACTUAL EVIDENCE as to the efficacy of homeopathic treatment. Make no mistake, I do not dismiss conventional veterinary help, not in the slightest. The two work very well hand in hand.

Please also try not to be quite so offensive in your replies. This is a friendly forum in the main.

 

[spacefaer]

I had a horse who was a headshaker. He was allergic to pollen. Every spring, a different allergen set him off and he was unrideable when headshaking.

He was prescribed homeopathic tablets by Chris Day MRCVS - a combination of 6 different tablets - and he stopped headshaking. He had no other management changes.

If I ran out of one of the tablets, he started twitching. If he didn't have the tablets, he was unrideable again.

No placebo effect - he didn't know he was taking them. Explain that.

Sorry OP for hijacking your post but I resent having my intelligence insulted by someone who insists on ramming blunt opinions down people's throats - a less belligerent posting style might be more effective in winning support.

 

[alsiola]

From you response It would appear that you have very little EXPERIENCE of homeopathy. If I relied totally on conventional veterinary assistance then the outcome of 2 very serious conditions would have been VERY different. Just because you dont understand something, do not dismiss it. It is a very dangerous blinkered view.

My understanding of homeopathy is that it is an alternative medicine treatment modality created by Samuel Hahnemann in the late 18th century. It is based around the unproven and illogical theory of "like cures like". Remedies are selected in a variety of ways. A substance that would cause the presenting symptoms in a healthy animal is often a starting point, although reference to a Homeopathic Materia Medica is also commonplace. Remedies within the Materia Medica have undergone a "proving" process, generally involving giving the remedy to a healthy patient and observing the symptoms produced. Also occasionally used are nosodes, where the remedy is created from diseased tissues, and sarcodes, where the remedy is created from healthy tissue.

The creation of a remedy is a complex procedure involving serial steps of dilution and succusion. Initially a 1C remedy is made by placing 1 part of ingredient into 100 parts diluent (often water or alcohol). The dilution is then "successed" to activate it - this is a variable step and is performed in many different ways, although I seem to recall Mr Hahnemann had a special leather strop created on which to bang his container. This process is said by some to imprint a memory of the substance into the water, although this is disputed even within the homeopathic community. A 2C remedy is made with 1 part 1C remedy per 100 diluent, and so on. Typical remedy strengths used are 12C and 30C. It is sometimes stated by homeopaths that the more dilute the remedy, the more potent its effects.

Homeopathic medicine made a striking impact when first created, mainly due to the active harm being done to patients by conventional doctors at the time. When compared with blood letting, it is no surprise that homeopaths had greater success. Fortunately, modern medicine is now at the point where simply providing a benign alternative is not an acceptable alternative.

Over the last few decades, extensive research has been performed on the efficacy of homeopathy. While some studies have shown benefit, many more have shown no effect. A large meta-analysis (grouping together of other studies) showed no overall positive (or negative) effect of homeopathy. It also showed that the better the quality of the study, the less likely it was to find any effect of homeopathy.

Science cannot explain physical action of homeopathy, because such an action has never been shown to exist. Where benefits have been found, they can be ascribed with confidence to placebo effect, confirmation bias and the tendency for recurrence to mean.

Please feel free to tell me where I misunderstand homeopathy.

I am prepared to provide FACTUAL EVIDENCE as to the efficacy of homeopathic treatment.

Then I am pleased to tell you that you will soon be rich. I welcome you to apply here: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

Please also try not to be quite so offensive in your replies. This is a friendly forum in the main.

I do not think it is offensive to describe someone who believes in the black box as gullible. It is a statement of fact.

 

[suzysparkle]

Alsiola you are very narrow minded. I have three examples for you:

1) The first horse I owned became very reluctant to go forward. My vet diagnosed her lame on all 4 legs under saddle, yet sound not under saddle. The veterinary behavioural specialist at an equine vet hospital advised me to use, I am not joking, draw reins. Prior to this they found she was better with painkillers, but couldn't find anything wrong on X ray or on a bone scan so deemed it behavioural. Long story short she had 4 treatments by a bowen therapist and homeopathic remedies after finding significant muscle spasms. She was fine after that. I knew it was pain!

2) One of my huskies had severe skin problems. She used to self mutilate to the point of screaming in pain as she caused open sores. She was, after many tests, referred to the head of dermatology at a vet college. He said 'we can't see anything so it must be fleas'. I bloomin wish!! We have controlled it with zinc supplements (something he dismissed despite being a common issue in the breed) and a combination of bowen and reikki which seem to have knocked it on the head.

3) Myself. I used to get chronic throat infections. The doctor swapped and was forever prescribing antibiotics. Then I got a homeopathic doctor involved. After a course of treatment years ago I have never had one since.

4) We recently got all our dogs pet passported. The vet was pretty clueless and if it hadn't been for OUR research our youngsters wouldn't have been done right.

Bottom line is, homeopathy and the other various alternative remedies out there DO work. Veterinary science has limits.

OP, I can highly recommend this lady. I'm not sure homeopathy would be the right method.
http://www.energywhispers.co.uk/

Don't know what good a vet would do for a Horse with a legitimate psychological fear of cars!!!

 

[alsiola]

I had a horse who was a headshaker. He was allergic to pollen. Every spring, a different allergen set him off and he was unrideable when headshaking.

He was prescribed homeopathic tablets by Chris Day MRCVS - a combination of 6 different tablets - and he stopped headshaking. He had no other management changes.

If I ran out of one of the tablets, he started twitching. If he didn't have the tablets, he was unrideable again.

No placebo effect - he didn't know he was taking them. Explain that.

Sorry OP for hijacking your post but I resent having my intelligence insulted by someone who insists on ramming blunt opinions down people's throats - a less belligerent posting style might be more effective in winning support.

There are many potential explanations:
1) Coincidence
2) He didn't know if he was taking them - you did. This could quite easily effect him, e.g. maybe you ride with more tension when you are worried about him headshaking. Maybe you dismiss minor twitches when he is on the tablets, but worry about them when he is off them.
3) True homeopathic tablets were not exclusively being used - maybe some herbal medicine (which can have effects) was also prescribed, but described to you under the umbrella term of homeopathy.

The point is that I can't explain an individual case, and neither can anyone else. There are far too many confounding variables that muddy the picture. Fortunately we have a system that can eliminate the confounding variables. It is known as science, and when applied to homeopathy shows that it doesn't work.

 

[suzysparkle]

Copied from Ainsworths:

Dr Samuel Hahnemann discovered homeopathy in 1790. The principles are set out in his book the Organon of medicine whose first edition was published in 1810. In those days doctors used barbaric drugs and employed treatments such as bloodletting. Hahnemann objected to such a callous approach and abandoned medical practice earning his income instead by translating medical texts. In 1790, whilst translating one such work by the Scottish physician William Cullen, Hahnemann came across an unacceptable explanation for the action of a certain tree bark (which we now know contains quinine) used to treat malaria and marsh fever. The information passed by the South American Indians to the Jesuit priests and from them back to the Old World was reliable, the bark did indeed cure the condition. The reason for its action given by Cullen however was not. Cullen had suggested that its action was dependant on its bitterness and hence its astringent action on the stomach.

Hahnemann knew of other more bitter substances that did not cure malaria. In an attempt to resolve the problem Hahnemann conducted an heroic experiment which is now the cornerstone of homeopathy. He boiled up some of this Cinchona bark and imbibed the bitter liquid over a four-day period. To his amazement the previously healthy doctor succumbed to a malarial-like fever, which abated soon after he stopped the experiment. Knowing that the Cinchona bark cured malaria in a sick patient, he had now discovered that it would induce it in a healthy person. Thus the concept of Likes being cured by Likes arose. Homoios and pathos deriving from the Greek for like and curing were thus used to form the name homeopathy to describe the new therapy. Hahnemann went on to prove that this phenomenon occurred in all other materials he and his followers tested. The collected works appear in tomes called Materia Medica

 

[alsiola]

Alsiola you are very narrow minded. I have three examples for you:

Incorrect. I am extremely broad minded - if you can show me evidence that homeopathy works then I will accept that it does. Dismissing ideas with neither logic nor proof is not narrow minded, it is common sense. Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out.

1) The first horse I owned became very reluctant to go forward. My vet diagnosed her lame on all 4 legs under saddle, yet sound not under saddle. The veterinary behavioural specialist at an equine vet hospital advised me to use, I am not joking, draw reins. Prior to this they found she was better with painkillers, but couldn't find anything wrong on X ray or on a bone scan so deemed it behavioural. Long story short she had 4 treatments by a bowen therapist and homeopathic remedies after finding significant muscle spasms. She was fine after that. I knew it was pain!

2) One of my huskies had severe skin problems. She used to self mutilate to the point of screaming in pain as she caused open sores. She was, after many tests, referred to the head of dermatology at a vet college. He said 'we can't see anything so it must be fleas'. I bloomin wish!! We have controlled it with zinc supplements (something he dismissed despite being a common issue in the breed) and a combination of bowen and reikki which seem to have knocked it on the head.

3) Myself. I used to get chronic throat infections. The doctor swapped and was forever prescribing antibiotics. Then I got a homeopathic doctor involved. After a course of treatment years ago I have never had one since.

4) We recently got all our dogs pet passported. The vet was pretty clueless and if it hadn't been for OUR research our youngsters wouldn't have been done right.

1) I don't know why anyone would diagnose a horse with behavioural issues after seeing an improvement on painkillers. Bowen therapy, while based on questionable principles, is not benign and can have effects. I suspect this had the desired effect in your horse, not the homeopathy.

2) If a head of dermatology said those words to you, then I am incredibly shocked. I congratulate you on finding a supplement that helped your dog, although it is a shame you wasted your money on Reiki.

3) Not a doctor don't know enough about what causes chronic throat infections.

4) How is this relevant?

Bottom line is, homeopathy and the other various alternative remedies out there DO work. Veterinary science has limits.

Veterinary science has limits is not an argument for the efficacy of homeopathy.

Don't know what good a vet would do for a Horse with a legitimate psychological fear of cars!!!

Just because you do not understand then do not dismiss. That is exceptionally narrow minded.

 

[Crazy Friesian]

My understanding of homeopathy is that it is an alternative medicine treatment modality created by Samuel Hahnemann in the late 18th century. It is based around the unproven and illogical theory of "like cures like". Remedies are selected in a variety of ways. A substance that would cause the presenting symptoms in a healthy animal is often a starting point, although reference to a Homeopathic Materia Medica is also commonplace. Remedies within the Materia Medica have undergone a "proving" process, generally involving giving the remedy to a healthy patient and observing the symptoms produced. Also occasionally used are nosodes, where the remedy is created from diseased tissues, and sarcodes, where the remedy is created from healthy tissue.

The creation of a remedy is a complex procedure involving serial steps of dilution and succusion. Initially a 1C remedy is made by placing 1 part of ingredient into 100 parts diluent (often water or alcohol). The dilution is then "successed" to activate it - this is a variable step and is performed in many different ways, although I seem to recall Mr Hahnemann had a special leather strop created on which to bang his container. This process is said by some to imprint a memory of the substance into the water, although this is disputed even within the homeopathic community. A 2C remedy is made with 1 part 1C remedy per 100 diluent, and so on. Typical remedy strengths used are 12C and 30C. It is sometimes stated by homeopaths that the more dilute the remedy, the more potent its effects.

Homeopathic medicine made a striking impact when first created, mainly due to the active harm being done to patients by conventional doctors at the time. When compared with blood letting, it is no surprise that homeopaths had greater success. Fortunately, modern medicine is now at the point where simply providing a benign alternative is not an acceptable alternative.

Over the last few decades, extensive research has been performed on the efficacy of homeopathy. While some studies have shown benefit, many more have shown no effect. A large meta-analysis (grouping together of other studies) showed no overall positive (or negative) effect of homeopathy. It also showed that the better the quality of the study, the less likely it was to find any effect of homeopathy.

Science cannot explain physical action of homeopathy, because such an action has never been shown to exist. Where benefits have been found, they can be ascribed with confidence to placebo effect, confirmation bias and the tendency for recurrence to mean.

Please feel free to tell me where I misunderstand homeopathy.



Then I am pleased to tell you that you will soon be rich. I welcome you to apply here: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html Like I said - please try to be civil and not quite so offensive



I do not think it is offensive to describe someone who believes in the black box as gullible. It is a statement of fact. Ah correct me if I am wrong - did I mention "black box"? My reply was in response to the question of HOMEOPATHY

I am sorry that you feel the need to make such acid and "informed" comments on something that you quite clearly have no experience of. Perhaps I will take up brain surgery on the basis of your example. The OP was asking for recommendations from people who have had positive EXPERIENCE not such vile, offensive responses.

I just wouldnt, in conscience dare to belittle people on the basis of me not understanding a subject but "having an opinion". At the end of the day the only one who is the loser is you and your animals. Not meant as a nasty comment, just a statement of fact. As a person who is vey sensitive / allergic to many conventional medicines I can happily state that "alternative remedies" do work. With regard to animals - it would be impossible to effect "desired change" through suggestion.

Please go and vent your unpleasantness elsewhere. Thankyou.

 

[alsiola]

I am sorry that you feel the need to make such acid and "informed" comments on something that you quite clearly have no experience of. Perhaps I will take up brain surgery on the basis of your example. The OP was asking for recommendations from people who have had positive EXPERIENCE not such vile, offensive responses.

Anyone who only wants positive experiences is doing themselves and their animals no favours. On what do you base your claims of "no experience". I have experience of seeing a laminitic horse with a pedal bone sticking out of the bottom of its hoof after months of homeopathic "treatment". I have experience of sarcoids growing exponentially larger after homeopathic "treatment". But I do not offer these as evidence that homeopathy doesn't work. Two cases says nothing as to the efficacy or otherwise of a treatment. Large scale scientific studies do say something - and they say that homeopathy does not work.
As for vile and offensive, maybe calling someone gullible was a touch harsh, but since then I have been nothing but civil and factual.

I just wouldnt, in conscience dare to belittle people on the basis of me not understanding a subject but "having an opinion". At the end of the day the only one who is the loser is you and your animals. Not meant as a nasty comment, just a statement of fact. As a person who is vey sensitive / allergic to many conventional medicines I can happily state that "alternative remedies" do work. With regard to animals - it would be impossible to effect "desired change" through suggestion.

I aim not to belittle people, but to belittle a useless "treatment". If, because of your belief in that treatment you feel belittled, then question your belief, not my words.

Please go and vent your unpleasantness elsewhere. Thankyou.

Please go and peddle your snake oil elsewhere

 

[suzysparkle]

although it is a shame you wasted your money on Reiki.

FYI I did NOT waste money on reiki. The supplement helps to keep it under control but she was still having flare ups. Since the reiki which was some time ago, she has not had another. For what it's worth, it was done free of charge anyway.

Yes I was shocked by the head of dermatology as well.

Interestingly, one of the vets we use does also use homeopathy. One of the things he often recommends is the kennel cough nosode. I like his approach as he uses alternatives when he feels they are better suited.

I always assumed that the problem with homeopathy is that it can't be proven because the potency is so minute. I'm quite sure there are many things in the world that science can't explain. Or maybe there isn't?? Who knows.

Please do tell us what sort of things a vet would do to help a Horse with psychological loading issues. I am really interested to know. Having had a Horse with these issues before and mentioning to a vet all that was offered was sedalin.

I mentioned limitations of veterinary medicine as an example of when alternative remedies can be tried, not as an argument that they work. Perhaps I worded that wrongly but no wonder seeing as my brain has apparently fallen out.

Finally, my point about passports was simply to do with the fact that sometimes vets don't get everything right - just like the rest of us. What annoyed me was the fact I had to argue the point and insist on them checking.

OP - Have you tried looking here:
http://www.britishhomeopathic.org/getting_treatment/homeopathic_vets/

 

[Tiny Fluffy Coblet]

It is a shame that people use the term homeopathy when they mean either herbal remedies or alternative/holistic medicine.

Herbal remedies work, if you know what you are doing - willow bark for headaches? willow bark contains salycilic acid - the main ingredient in asprin. Just don't let anyone convince you that 'natural' and 'herbal' means 'cannot possibly do any harm' - digitalis is derived from foxglove, a very useful drug but get the quantity slightly wrong and it will kill.

A lot of holistic methods also seem to work, from reiki (damn it I don't like it at all but having experienced it am forced to admit it's efficacy) to aromatherapy (again seen it in action) and do little/no harm so unless someone is denying proper veterinary treatment to an acute case because they are 'going the natural route' then there is no problem I can see.

However homeopathy - the belief not only that like treats like but also that the greater the dilution the greater the efficacy until often the 'stronger' solutions have none of the relevant molecule in it - is one of the sketchiest of the alternative therapies. I'm afraid I class it alongside crystal healing with 'if it makes you feel better'.

Bach flower remedies are designed to combat 38 basic negative states of mind the guy created a plant or flower based remedy for each one. He believed that these states of mind prevented healing. He my be right. Either way they are completely separate in theory and practice than Homeopathy.

 

[Dizzle]

Does anyone know of any homeopathic vets in gloucestershire.

I do believe veterinary medecine is based on scientific proof, for which there is none for homeopathic remedies... (I have nothing against homeopathy and have used certain preperations myself BUT there is NOTHING to say that these things work other than annecdoate evidence)

 

[BethH]

I never pretended that the Bach's flower remedies were anything to do with homeopathy, I just added an idea to the forum as it seemed to help my rather difficult horse move forward after losing his pair bond when I was absolutely desperate for some help, whether it helped my horse or my own mental attitude who can say, but I was willing to try anything at that point no matter how crazy. Valerian has absolutely without doubt helped my horse calm his nerves on a regular basis.

I have to say that I don't think there has been a lot posted about this subject that has been constructive, perhaps we could get back some ideas on how to help this poor horse get over his fear of cars, I believe ideas to help this were sought!

 

[Dizzle]

Indeed, I am not pooo pooing homeoptathy, just saying it would be unlikely for a vet to suggest it.

There is a fantastic calmer on the market called prokalm, FEI approved so can be used competing etc. It doesn't make the horse dopey but appears to help them process the situations far better.

I used it on my horse before he travelled this weekend. He hasn't travelled for 18 months and was a totally stressy traveller, would turn up in January in freezing cold weather dripping in sweat, would jump off the lorry before you'd had a chance to even fully open the partition and would stress the whole way and for a while afterwards. (Once he even sat on the partition he was getting so worked up).

I tried prokalm on him before we travelled and he loaded like an angel, stood in the lorry nicely to be tied, travelled without sweating up, was so calm to unload that he stood on the ramp and then pottered around at the other end on a loose rein. I don't think he even poo'd in the lorry.

Super super super product, you can get a small trial bag for around a tenner.

You honestly wouldn't have believe that he had ever had an issue travelling if you'd have seen him at the weekend, so much so I'm now planning on getting him out in the trailer with my friend to do some more dressage

 

[Digger123]

Ooh err
Never meant to cause a controversial post but thanks for some of the more helpfull suggestions.
I am willing to try anything to help my horse through this difficult time.My horse is fit and healthy , just terrified of moving vehicles. I have had a variety of suggestions ranging from a good slap on his butt to send him forward to getting ACP from my vet and taking him out doped out of his brain. Neither appeal to me.
We are working in the yard just getting him to pass a stationary car is bad enough. I am not willing to take him out on any lane until he is confident in passing a car with the engine running.

Alsiola - If I want to 'waste' my money on homeopathy or getting the local witch out to help me with my horse that is my decision.

 

[Ashf]

Ooh err
Never meant to cause a controversial post but thanks for some of the more helpfull suggestions.
I am willing to try anything to help my horse through this difficult time.My horse is fit and healthy , just terrified of moving vehicles. I have had a variety of suggestions ranging from a good slap on his butt to send him forward to getting ACP from my vet and taking him out doped out of his brain. Neither appeal to me.
We are working in the yard just getting him to pass a stationary car is bad enough. I am not willing to take him out on any lane until he is confident in passing a car with the engine running.

Alsiola - If I want to 'waste' my money on homeopathy or getting the local witch out to help me with my horse that is my decision.

As an alternative, I would suggest that you work with your horse to desensitise it to being around cars. Your own responses to your horse seeing a car up close can also affect they way it reacts - 'what is in the brain goes down the rein' as they say. If you anticipate it is going to freak out, you might subconsciously be winding it up with your own fears after such a bad experience. Has anyone else ridden your horse in these conditions and had the same reaction ?

It isn't nice riding a horse which it on its toes all the time, but on the other hand, I'd not be happy riding a horse which is oblivious to all around it if it were under the influence of any pill or potion.

 

[Digger123]

We are trying to desensitive him in a safe area rather than the roads !
He is still as nervous with other people handling him near cars so I can't say it's me transferring the fear. I can actually get him to stand next to a car now, providing there is food on the gnce he is confident with that we will try with the engine running.
The idea of using homeopathy was as a complementry treatment .As I said before, I am willing to try anything to get him back to as he was before.

 

[Ashf]

We are trying to desensitive him in a safe area rather than the roads !
He is still as nervous with other people handling him near cars so I can't say it's me transferring the fear. I can actually get him to stand next to a car now, providing there is food on the gnce he is confident with that we will try with the engine running.
The idea of using homeopathy was as a complementry treatment .As I said before, I am willing to try anything to get him back to as he was before.

I doubt there will be a quick fix TBH. It will IMO take a good deal of time and effort on your part to sort this problem out with him as it is a psychological one now which he has to work through.

My daughter (Ponyfeet10) had a HGV hit her TB mare a couple of months ago on the road.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=438178

Fortunately it didn't freak the horse out, but it could have been so much worse . We have spent years working with our horses to desensitise them to drain covers, parked vans, passing cars, bicycles etc etc. It is all work in progress, and you as an owner will only get out what you put in. Keep at it, You will get the results you want in time

 

[Lanky Loll]

Hi OP
You might want to contact Roger Meacock - he's just outside Cirencester.
http://www.naturalhealingsolutions.co.uk/main/page_home.html

 

[Digger123]

Ashf .I have just read your daughters post, horrendous and she is so lucky. I have ridden this stretch of road so many times, indeed it is a country lane, without incident met tractors, rattly skip lorries etc.Obviously our day to become a statistic. I realise there are no quick fixes and hopefully we will get there eventually. I am fortunate as there are fields I can hack round without doing any roadwork. As he is destined to be a hunter, doing roadwork is a necessity.So we will persevere and hopefully one day in the future everything will be back as it was.

 

[Ashf]

I hope it works out for you Digger