Honest opinions please

[Santa_Claus]

Can I have some honest opinions on these videos please. I'm not saying what I want opinions on just that I wan't opinions. Feel free to be critical I have a thick skin

So yes please have a field day...

 

[Santa_Claus]

72 views surely someone is brave enough to comment

 

[samstar]

What was we suppose to answer about

 

[jhoward]

lameness? (not a random guess, looks like theres a tiny bit of head bobbing, and right rein worse.)

 

[samstar]

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lameness? (not a random guess, looks like theres a tiny bit of head bobbing, and right rein worse.)

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is lameness in back left

 

[Cliqmo]

How do you know how many views you' ve had? I didn't know you could find that out?!

Nice looking horse (mare I assume?), is she young or old? She doesn't have lots of topline and I'm not sure why!

 

[f_s_]

Is this a young horse? Or coming back into work after injury?

Just that horse is not tracking up properly on either rein, not working through it's back, looks quite stiff, more on right rein, and has about a 1/10 lameness issue.

But, I know nothing!!!

Could be totally wrong, of course, and I could have missed that it has three ears, two heads, and is upside down!!!!

 

[ihatework]

Gosh. Tricky. I'm assuming you are wanting opinions on soundness.
I have watched the video's a few times and am hard pressed from those clips to say horse is lame. However something doesn't feel right, barely tracking up and I just feel the horse should be more expressive.
If I had to stick my neck out I'd go for the OF/NH diagonal but wouldn't rule out bilateral.
I'd be interested to see on hard surface straight/circle.

 

[Santa_Claus]

He is definitely a gelding last time I looked!!!!

Yes possible lameness is what I'm asking about but I didn't want to say that as I wanted to see if anyone spotted it.

Brief history its my 15yo old man Dan! He has had navicular and hock bone spavins for approx 5 years now, was treated with tildren which helped no end but was retired from showjumping to only very light work. Went lame infront (yes off fore) about 4/10ths about 4 days ago but this did quickly improve to now I would personally say 1/10th.

Today lunged him briefly after trotting up basically sound on concrete and noticed I thought some potential hind lameness but I am paranoid about him due to his history and yes he is always stiff for a good 10-15mins again due to history.

Before anyone shouts have you called vet the answer is no and for one main reason. He is reknown for going lame for no reason (standing on smallest of stones, falling over his shadow type things!) and the vets know him well. If I rang them to say he was lame at mo I get the answer give him a few days to see if clears unless a good 6/10ths+ lame and if no improvement then will investigate to see if navicular/bone spavin re-occurrence.

No obvious puntures/injuries/heat/swelling/bruising etc etc infact nothing. The only 'symptom' to the front lameness at its worst a few days ago was he was landing on the outside of his off fore lame leg) first then the inside of the foot. This was a symptom of his navicular when at it's worst. This rotation/twisting has disappeared again.

Yes he has little topline but that is because he is only in very light work due to injuries and due to his confirmation it makes him look like a coat rack (shame you can't see his tum which is like a barrel

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So yes thankyou to those who answered, I am though thinking I am coming to the opinion his navicular/bone spavins are returning but this is something that I am going to have to play very much by ear with him as it is unlikely a second treatment of tildren will have the same effect and steroid injections did nothing for him first time round...

My friendly HHOer who rides him for me during term time will have to come and see how he is I think....

 

[ihatework]

I feel for you.
I have a 13yo with navicular (one foot worse than other) and both high suspensories gone behind at different time points. It's a nightmare trying to work out what is primary/secondary lameness and if its related to prior history or not.

It wouldn't surprise me if you have something happening behind, have you noticed a change in your horses action behind? He seems to move slightly wide rather than through which is something I've noticed mine doing in compensation for his suspensories.

 

[Santa_Claus]

It is very frustrating especially as just as I think i'm getting somewhere with him i.e. getting him back in decent light work (being ridden 5 days a week by friendly HHoer!!

) and showing progress he goes lame. He had been an utter prat the day before in the field apparently which is on a nice steep gradient but as said no heat/swelling/puffiness etc so couldn't tie it to that definitively.

He has always moved wide behind to an extent. The slight dip in his hip was what 'concerned' me most. The surface isn't great though and as said it was only a brief lunge so will always be stiff that early into work. Gah yet again going to have to work through and see as long as lameness doesn't deteoriate again and then yes it will be off to vets for lamness work up (at my expense as almost every part of him is excluded by vets now

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[filly0447]

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It is very frustrating especially as just as I think i'm getting somewhere with him i.e. getting him back in decent light work (being ridden 5 days a week by friendly HHoer!!

) and showing progress he goes lame. He had been an utter prat the day before in the field apparently which is on a nice steep gradient but as said no heat/swelling/puffiness etc so couldn't tie it to that definitively.


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i just read that as had been ridden by an utter prat the day before!!! you tell me when you want me to come up, and i will!

 

[Louby]

Hi, Sorry to say but I think he looks lame behind. Left hind? and to me its more obvious on the left rein but then Im not the best at spotting it.
I hope hes ok.

 

[Santa_Claus]

ha ha no and you know that

Was rearing/galloping about and generally being a twit but I didn't see him just going by what housemate said who did see him.

Louby don't be sorry I want honest opinions to check i'm not seeing things

 

[filly0447]

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ha ha no and you know that

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haha! too much firehouse wine i think!

 

[Santa_Claus]

now that is dangerous!!!!

 

[filly0447]

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now that is dangerous!!!!

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yes especially two nights in a row! have replied on faceyb!