hoof xrays

Emilieu

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Spent the morning at the vet looking at the xrays they took of Deano's hooves and joints. Really interesting and informative - joints are fairly perfect but thought I would share the ones of his front hooves with anyone who is interested. They show that the angle of the pedal bone is all wrong and that this has caused some inflammation, particularly in his left fore which hopefully you can see is much worse. Coffin joint and navicular bone look fine thank goodness (you can see these better in the shots taken at other angles). Vet is very hopeful that the next xrays will show the angle of the pedal bone changing - hope so!

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Hope you can see them ok. The ones of the joints were strangely beautiful, had to keep holding myself back from saying so to the vet!
 
That's really interesting :) did he have any signs of the pedal bone from the outside? My mares got to go down for X-rays soon as she's still not right from her laminitis. It's on/off but without any change in feed or routine so it's hard to tell if it's somethings up inside her hooves or if it's metabolic!
 
Um, wow. Is it just a dodgy photo, or is there some serious deformation of the top pedal bone?!

Other than that - negative palmar angle, distal descent of p3 and thin soles.

Has your vet advised you on diet?
 
I find it so fascinating looking at xrays! Glad you got some good news and nothing too bad :)
This is my most interesting one , Here is my horses LF (her not so bad leg) and check out the very impressive sidebones! I couldn't believe it when I saw it! the RF is worse but I dont have the copies of those x-rays!

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MM he was bilaterally lame when lunged on a hard surface and reluctant to place weight onto his heels. I was convinced the pain was behind and he did block out on his hocks as well. wonder if it was from trying to shift his weight off the front. Hope your mares xrays help solve the issues for you.
Ttd I know about the palmer angle and the (very) thin soles but what is p3 please? Yes the left pedal bone is the main issue, the deformation that you can see is inflammation. Vet is happy with diet, he is on a barefoot friendly one as I wanted to transition him before we realised just how thin the soles were.
 
In the RF they are even worse! My vet even said "if you look at those devil horns you will see what I mean!" :rolleyes:
Luckily for me they are and have been formed for a while and cause no issue whatsover!
Its a shame I dont have the RF x-rays as she has sidebones, DJD, and High Ringbone of the short pastern so they are very fascinating to look at! :o
 
Emilieu, did the vet think he has thin soles? I'm not much cop with X Rays but the pedal bone looks very near the ground to me.
 
It's amazing what can be going on underneath really! There is a weird 'thing' happening above Deano's knee joint but as he is sound with his heels blocked we are just going to be ignoring it. Dread to think what xrays of me would show up!
 
MM he was bilaterally lame when lunged on a hard surface and reluctant to place weight onto his heels. I was convinced the pain was behind and he did block out on his hocks as well. wonder if it was from trying to shift his weight off the front. Hope your mares xrays help solve the issues for you.
Ttd I know about the palmer angle and the (very) thin soles but what is p3 please? Yes the left pedal bone is the main issue, the deformation that you can see is inflammation. Vet is happy with diet, he is on a barefoot friendly one as I wanted to transition him before we realised just how thin the soles were.

Good that the diet's all sorted, that'll make things easier :)

The distal descent means that the pedal bone is lower in the hoof capsule than it ought to be - it's quite common! Common enough that some vets think it's normal ;). It can be reversed, and doesn't normally cause lameness. Here's some info on it http://www.hoofrehab.com/jessica.htm.

The thin soles should improve with diet, and if you do go head with the barefoot transition, the stimulation will do them the world of good :).
 
Amandap that was why vet wouldn't let me take him barefoot. The soles are so thin I found it terrifying looking at them but vet assured me that they have the support that they need now.
 
Baker190 is your horse still sound?.I'm asking because on x-ray my lad has high ringbone on both fronts and i was worried about him being sound enough to do more than a trot with him.
 
Baker190 is your horse still sound?.I'm asking because on x-ray my lad has high ringbone on both fronts and i was worried about him being sound enough to do more than a trot with him.

yes she is :D it was a very long hard year but well worth it!
Basically she went in a year ago for a lameness work up. We x-rayed the RF and found High ringbone of the short pastern, Sidebones and DJD. Vet was sure she would be no more than an ornament, light hack at most once a week. She had cortisone injection, something else (cant remember what) put on a 99% glucosamine supplement and bute daily. She is also barefoot. After 4 months off we decided to bring her back to work as she was miserable and unmanageable and beginning to be dangerous. I spent this year hacking only, fittening her up and getting her back to her old self and also got her to her ideal weight which with these problems is slightly under "pefect" to help with the strain on her joints.

We went back in September for a follow up and she 100% sound in RF (to the vets absolute shock) but ever so slightly lame in LF so we x-rayed and found again sidebones and slight navicular changes. We decided to medicate her with Tildren as she was the ideal candidate and it would help all of her individual problems and now she is 100 % :D
We have started schooling again, having lessons once every other week and even went to our first dressage comp last week and got 5th (even though madam was very hyper and very naughty not having been out in a long time :rolleyes:) I think the Tildren is what has done it, you wouldn;t know anything was wrong with her!!

It is all management. She is still on half a sachet of bute per day but thats more to put my mind at rest and I will be stopping it soon. She is 16.3hh and well built and my vet constantly tells me it is doing nothing and I am just being soft :p
Being careful what kind of surface you work on, not to do too much (we do a max of 45 mins in the school and have built her up very very slowly, we only introduced canter in the school last week after 2 months of walk and trot!)

You need to work out what is best for your horse, I went against some of the vets advice but glad I did!!


Emilieu - sorry for hijacking the thread :o
 
No problem baker, its very interesting :) you must be so pleased.
Thank you for the link Ttd, will have a proper read once my babysitter duties are over - toddlers do not make it easy to follow complex new stuff!
 
Yes I am very pleased! I think they all react differently to different things and its a matter of managing it as best you can and then doing what they are capable of doing within their limits! :)
 
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