horse broken vet says put in foal!!!

Because they cannot fix it so feel they are offering another option, it would be better just saying turn it away for a year and see if it fixes itself in that time but that is not treating the horse so the vet is not actually doing anything.
 
be positive said:
So the vet is avoiding suggesting pts, again something most find hard so they offer the "easy" option.
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the vet knows the owner well, they have no knowledge/need/want/facilities for a foal but pots of money to keep the mare if they choose to without the need/cost or worry of a foal.

there has been no injury or accident that has caused the problem so the chances are it is down to a weakness in her conformation
 
Sounds like a retirement or PTS situation but if vet suggests/does that, that's the end of his cash cow or it's just he's one of those wishy washy types that wants to keep everything going at whatever cost but whether that's to the animal's benefit is debatable. Sorry if that sounds cynical but the more I learn about some vets and what little empathy they have with animals, the more I thank God for the ones I use that do have the animal's interests at the foremost of their minds.
 
Maesfen said:
Sounds like a retirement or PTS situation but if vet suggests/does that, that's the end of his cash cow or it's just he's one of those wishy washy types that wants to keep everything going at whatever cost but whether that's to the animal's benefit is debatable. Sorry if that sounds cynical but the more I learn about some vets and what little empathy they have with animals, the more I thank God for the ones I use that do have the animal's interests at the foremost of their minds.
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the vet wont be used again anyway but thats another story.

i agree retirement or PTS,
 
*Originally Posted by Maesfen *
Sounds like a retirement or PTS situation but if vet suggests/does that, that's the end of his cash cow or it's just he's one of those wishy washy types that wants to keep everything going at whatever cost but whether that's to the animal's benefit is debatable. Sorry if that sounds cynical but the more I learn about some vets and what little empathy they have with animals, the more I thank God for the ones I use that do have the animal's interests at the foremost of their minds.

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My thoughts exactly
 
surely it's because insurance won't pay loss of use for mares because they can still be used for breeding unlike geldings who have no job once crock.
 
they pay loss of use for mares same as geldings, if your mare is insured for riding and cannot be ridden she is loss of use-the claim is going through for this one and my daughters mare was a loss of use claim before we got her.

with the market the way it is it cost money to breed and sell a foal these days unless they are top end of the market
 
twiggy2 said:
they pay loss of use for mares same as geldings, if your mare is insured for riding and cannot be ridden she is loss of use-the claim is going through for this one and my daughters mare was a loss of use claim before we got her.

with the market the way it is it cost money to breed and sell a foal these days unless they are top end of the market
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Many don't have a loss of use section on their insurance as it whacks up the premium so much plus it's hard to get it awarded even when you do.

Even at the top of the market, breeders are finding it hard to shift anything, it's not just the poor end that's affected, sadly.
 
Some people simply can't tolerate the idea of their horse not "having a job" to do. Even if the job is completely pointless
 
Jo_x said:
Some people simply can't tolerate the idea of their horse not "having a job" to do. Even if the job is completely pointless
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it is the vet not the owner in this case though, although I agree in general.

maesfen this one is insured for loss of use, we shall see if insurance try to wiggle out of paying
 
Drives me mad when people just breed any old horse for the sake of it! Especially if conformationally the horse is not great and will be passed on to the foal!
 
[QUOTE there has been no injury or accident that has caused the problem so the chances are it is down to a weakness in her conformation[/QUOTE]

Would NOT breed from something that could not work due to a weakness in the conformation!
 
Arghhh why do they do this! A lady on our yard has a section d x tb.. a beautiful show hunter, would make it at countyshows if she put the effort in, thats how beautiful it is.... anyhow... she wants to put it in foal to a.... DALES?!?!?!?!?!?!!? wtf?
 
twiggy2 said:
why do some vets still suggest this?

not my vet not my mare

mare not proven to any level/unknown breeding/conformation not the best but not terrible
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The owner doesn't have to take that advice, it isn't compulsory! My vet strongly suggested I have my mare PTS replace her. I didn't and she outlved him by several years.
 
fatpiggy said:
The owner doesn't have to take that advice, it isn't compulsory! My vet strongly suggested I have my mare PTS replace her. I didn't and she outlved him by several years.
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of course it is not

the question was 'why do vets still suggest it?' not why do the owners have to do it

stormox-no damage to the pelvis but thats and interesting idea-i would imagine that pelvis damage is a definate no no for foaling- my friend ended up with her (wonky) mare due to the owner not wanting her anymore after she got hit by a car and had a suspected break to her pelvis-long time ago but as she was coping rescue centre rested her as re-hab with vets advice and my friend was given her the following year as her mum owned the small rescue centre
 
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Insurance companies still look to reduce LOU payouts by suggesting this as an option for the animal, i had to fight with my insurance company and get my vet to write a letter stating it wasnt an option for my mare , and tbh if the insurance claim handlers knew anything they'd have known that
 
I am so glad I am not a vet. This vet suggested breeding rather than PTS and they are villified. One vet round here told an owner that the horse would have to be PTS and they have been publicly berated for not being sympathetic in the way they told the owner (said horse had been on borrowed time for ages)

Vets are there to treat animals to the best of their ability. They are human beings and although they do their best I am sure that sometimes they make mistakes. Obviously some are better at their job than others.

My own vets are fantastic. They are on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. Rain/Snow/gale etc. Considerably more than any branch of the human medical world. Thank you so much to my vets - you know who you are!

If you do not think your vets are good why are you using them? Go and get a second opinion straight away. If they are that bad that you need to criticise them on a public forum surely you should be making an official complaint to BVA?
 
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