Horse Kicking other at show

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So iv just experienced my first show today at Stanford house.

Watching the show And the horses lined up, all of a sudden one kicked the other, full hard. The girl was abut shook up and turned her horse around, and the other horse tried kicking again! Ended up being moved to the end of the line, but the kicking horse just kept trying to get to this other horse. Then out the ring, everytime we walked passed he kicked off, trying to get to us! He really scared us lol


What would you do if he kicked your horse?
 
Forgot to add, then kicking horse went back for a different show, stood next to another horse and tried to kick them, other horse moved and knocked little handler over :( she was really hurt :(
 
taylorsxmummy said:
Then out the ring, everytime we walked passed he kicked off, trying to get to us! He really scared us lol


What would you do if he kicked your horse?
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Having witnessed the horse kicking out in the ring why on earth would you repeatedly walk past it to wind it up? Especially if you were really scared.
 
No, nowhere near the horse. We had to walk past once to get to the loo, and one time he was being lead past us as we was walking past to the car, and tbh we was just sat on the grass, he was the one walking past us.
 
I would stay well away from it as soon as it started to warn, but if my horse acted like that I would keep it a good distance away from the others, even if it meant having to have a word with the judge just to get through it for experience and getting marked down for it!

It may have been the horse's first show. Not a good idea to enter it in another class and let it hurt someone though :-( it needs a big red ribbon or three!
 
judge shoul have asked it to leave the class, also think from health and safety perspective committee should have asked for it to leave the ground if it was repeatedly trying too kick others, it is just not safe
 
Should have been asked to leave. I also probably wouldn't bother with such a horse. First show is no excuse. All horses have a first show. Well ones that show. I'll admit I thought Abba might have been one to kick at other horses at shows. However that was me being paranoid and she has been a perfect lady at shows. She walks next to others in warm up. Has been knocked into by others who have lost it and never once threatned or indeed kicked. Horse sounds like a misreable git who is likely a PITA to deal with at home too. I'm saying that going by the OP's account of when he wasn't in the ring. So for me he needs more practice at home with other horses and some boundries or just not show if I couldn't make the effort to try and work on it. Or owner is one of those who always has an excuse for her horse's bad behavoir.

I took 2 ponies to their first jumper show the other night. We had young kid whizzing by on horses and on foot and while both were a little freaked out the listened to me and were so good. One of them came into us to be started and did nothing but come at us with hind and fronts. He was basically unhandled and didn't know how to lead. He wouldn't deam of doing that now. Was so proud of both of them.

Terri
 
As the rider of a confirmed kicker I have to say I always have a red ribbon on in company. I also always try and stay out the way and warn people if they come too close. The mare just doesnt like having others on her bum. Being alongside her never has presented a problem, not even a grumpy face.

If this was my horse I would have given said horse a good smack, nodded to the judges and steward, thanked them and left the ring AFTER apologising to the girl whose horse mine kicked. Horse would have been taken back to the trailer and loaded and that would have been the end of its day. I would not have entered it in other classes thats just bleeding selfish and not on.

Some horses cannot be taught not to kick but you should at least try by reprimanding them. Ive reprimanded my mare but still she doesnt like having other horses sniffing her tailend. So ribbon it is.
 
I really felt for the little girl who got knocked down, she screamed and screamed, her dad literally jumped over the fence and dropped his camera to get to her! Her mum was t that bothered lmao.

But yeah the horse scared me, just the way it was prancing, not staying still, rearing and barging it owner. Also the bloody noises he was making lmao. It was in the kids showing ring too.
 
Thanks BB. Good answer from someone who deals with a kicker. I won't say a horse as described in the OP because rider didn't seem to give a hoot.

That's the difference.

Terri
 
My old dressage competition horse kicked someone in a warm up once. He never did it again and had never done it previously. He got a very hard smack and was made to go really forward, and I apologised profusely to the rider.

To be fair to him, he was a sharp horse and on his first lap of the warm-up the fore-mentioned horse cantered past him missing him by cm's. The next time he went past the same horse he kicked it. It was completely un-acceptable either way, but I do think it gives him some small reason at least.

If he had behaved like the horse in question he would have been taken home for everyone else's safety.
 
Equilibrium Ireland said:
Thanks BB. Good answer from someone who deals with a kicker. I won't say a horse as described in the OP because rider didn't seem to give a hoot.

That's the difference.

Terri
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Agreed, it is the difference. I do everything I can including loading said mare into the trailer if not being ridden just incase. Shes fine as long as she can eat hay but not wrth the risk. I also dont keep her standing but keep her walking undersaddle and I wouldnt have her standing in a crowd. I cant stop her kicking but I can minimize the risks to others, although some folk can refuse to listen but most dont want their horses injured so keep out the way :)
 
Same as BB - as the rider of a confirmed kicker, I make damn sure that I keep her out of the way of others as much as possible! She wears a BIG red ribbon, that cannot be missed and is reprimanded for so much as lifting a hind leg at another horse. (Although I must admit, she hasn't kicked another horse out at a show, but she does pull faces if one comes too close)
Aside from that and the odd excited dance, she is well behaved and should she have behaved the way the horse in the OP did, would not have been entered in any more classes. Horse clearly had a toys out of pram day!
K x
 
Black Beastie said:
As the rider of a confirmed kicker I have to say I always have a red ribbon on in company. I also always try and stay out the way and warn people if they come too close. The mare just doesnt like having others on her bum. Being alongside her never has presented a problem, not even a grumpy face.

If this was my horse I would have given said horse a good smack, nodded to the judges and steward, thanked them and left the ring AFTER apologising to the girl whose horse mine kicked. Horse would have been taken back to the trailer and loaded and that would have been the end of its day. I would not have entered it in other classes thats just bleeding selfish and not on.

Some horses cannot be taught not to kick but you should at least try by reprimanding them. Ive reprimanded my mare but still she doesnt like having other horses sniffing her tailend. So ribbon it is.
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My mare is known to kick out when we hack if someone is too close to her butt - with friends they all know how she behaves, the one show we've been to she had both red and green ribbons as she was young as well as I was very unsure how she'd behave. To her credit she was a star and didn't lift a leg at all but I was amazed at how close people still came to her.
 
My old horse was a confirmed kicker. He got very upset when other horses got too close to him so at every show I would plait a long red ribbon into his tail and warn anyone who came too close to keep their distance. However, at one show a woman kept squashing my horse into corners and up the long sides and using him as backstop to stop her horse she couldn't control after every fence. I politely asked her if she could watch her distance as my horse is likely to kick and he was beginning to show signs that he was going to kick. I decided I was going to take him out and go home as he was too wound up, I had about half the lap of the school to go before I could leave when the woman came cantering round the corner and crashed into my horses side again. My horse was not very impressed with this and did kick out. I got of the horse and handed him to my mum and went to apologise to her but she wasn't having any of it. I thought I acted responsibly in the situation by warning her politely and then choosing to leave the arena, but sometimes us riders of kickers do all we can to avoid out horse kicking out but there are some inconsiderate people who completely ignore your horses warnings and your polite requests to mind their distance so it does unfortunately happen.
 
Equilibrium Ireland said:
Should have been asked to leave. I also probably wouldn't bother with such a horse. First show is no excuse. All horses have a first show. Well ones that show. I'll admit I thought Abba might have been one to kick at other horses at shows. However that was me being paranoid and she has been a perfect lady at shows. She walks next to others in warm up. Has been knocked into by others who have lost it and never once threatned or indeed kicked. Horse sounds like a misreable git who is likely a PITA to deal with at home too. I'm saying that going by the OP's account of when he wasn't in the ring. So for me he needs more practice at home with other horses and some boundries or just not show if I couldn't make the effort to try and work on it. Or owner is one of those who always has an excuse for her horse's bad behavoir.

I took 2 ponies to their first jumper show the other night. We had young kid whizzing by on horses and on foot and while both were a little freaked out the listened to me and were so good. One of them came into us to be started and did nothing but come at us with hind and fronts. He was basically unhandled and didn't know how to lead. He wouldn't deam of doing that now. Was so proud of both of them.

Terri
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How did you teach him/her to lead ? one expert at our yard is braying the living out of a un-handled 5 year old - which I think is wholly stupid as sooner or later the horse is going to react - she has quite a spark to her - I have had to step away as I cannot end up with 5 horses !
 
I don't think the kicked horse got too close, because the kicker was sill trying to get a him after the kicked one moved far away x
 
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