Horse Poo to be reclassified.......beware!

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I'm not sure who this will affect but my YO/Farmer/Family Friend advised me today that he may want me to be packaging up my poo and taking it with me. Apparently horse poo is going to be re-classified as industrial waste and can't be tipped on farms. It's apparently come from persistent burners of horse muck in Cheshire and the Enviromental Agency have become so fed up they are re-classifing it, making it very difficult to dispose of. My hubby works for a skip firm so I may well have hire a skip to get rid of it! Just a heads up to people out there - this is legitimate and leaflets are being sent out to all farms soon. Not sure how it may affect livery yards - I guess it depends if they are on a farm?

Sorry if this has already been discussed before
 
Rather glad i am on a farm where it will be spread on the fields, tbh my livery yard at home will probably ignore it anyway. But if that is true then its rather stupid rule!
 
If this is enforced fully, and YO have to have their muck removed by licensed companies then I can forsee a lot of livery yards closing down, and the cost of DIY doubling if not trebling.

We were quoted for a grab lorry to remove ours to a power station (8 wheeler lorry) will take 3 tonnes for £350 + VAT and our heap would need to be taken once a month (10 horses).

Our farmer does it for £75.00 a month.
 
all horse pooh has to be moved by a licensed remover! it is already classed as hasserdous waste (spelling doesnt and isnt right) muck removal is a huge cost to yards and has to be built into livery charges! (unless you want to take it with you daily)
 
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If this is enforced fully, and YO have to have their muck removed by licensed companies then I can forsee a lot of livery yards closing down, and the cost of DIY doubling if not trebling.

We were quoted for a grab lorry to remove ours to a power station (8 wheeler lorry) will take 3 tonnes for £350 + VAT and our heap would need to be taken once a month (10 horses).

Our farmer does it for £75.00 a month.

[/ QUOTE ]I hope you meant 30 tonnes not 3
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No I mean 3 tonnes at a push they could get 5 on (although this lorry did not have high sides, which I know a lot of removers have, but we dont have any in our area.

As for having to be removed by licensed removers, at present my council are happy that the muck heap is removed and spread by the local farmer, that is a condition when applying for a livery yard permission.

To be honest I will close the yard and just keep my horses, there is now so much red tape, it is hardly worth running it anymore.
 
OH Yuck!!! When are councils going to come down to the basic commopn sense and this Bloody Goverment, they've caused more trouble with incompetence than I've known before, They are not counrtywise, animal wise complete morons!!
 
Seriously I would shop around for a different grab lorry company.
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I get an 8 wheeler (with sides) to take away mine and they charge me £ 100 plus VAT!
 
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OH Yuck!!! When are councils going to come down to the basic commopn sense and this Bloody Goverment, they've caused more trouble with incompetence than I've known before, They are not counrtywise, animal wise complete morons!!

[/ QUOTE ]And clearly it is not the fault of the persistent muck burners(Smoulderers more likely),and poluters of watercourses.
 
Im in South Lincolnshire.

Believe me I have shopped around all the companies are miles away and the haulage is what tops the charge up, plus they also then charge by tonne on what is on.

If I could get £100 a month, I would snatch their hand off if they stop my friendly farmer taking mine.
 
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OH Yuck!!! When are councils going to come down to the basic commopn sense and this Bloody Goverment, they've caused more trouble with incompetence than I've known before, They are not counrtywise, animal wise complete morons!!

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Never
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because too many non jobs depend on finding 'problems' to deal with and to make laws about.. To make jobs for penpushers and clipboard wealding jobworths both here and most importanly our real masters... in Europe..
its going to get worse as our leaders just except every petty one size fits all rule that the overpaid pinheads in the EU dream up...
 
I spread my muck and I don't think many people burn round here as the council jumps on you pretty fast as they aren't really horsey and no there isn't a water way anywhere near. Owned horses for nearly 40 years and I would say these new restrictions are in the past 10 years or so
 
This is complete rubbish - literally
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Horse manure has always been classified as Industrial waste -however if you spread horse manure to agricultural land as a fertiliser and as long as you do not harm the environment or human health there are no waste controls to comply with - this is as long as it is a recovery activity ie the act of spreading gives a benefit to the land. If however you dispose of your manure by burning, dumping it in a hole or fly-tipping it the laws on waste disposal do apply and have always applied.
 
I work for the environment Agency and this is a complete load of rubbish!!! the situation is
If you run a livery yard, stud etc or anything like that which is classed as a business then the waste which comes form it including feed bags, string etc is classed as CONTROLLED waste and therefore cannot be burnt and must be removed by a licenced waste carrier. This can be a skip operator, farmer, whoeever but they must have a valid waste carriers certificate which allows them to carry other peoples waste and the waste must be going to a facility which can accept it ie; farm, landfill etc. Yard owners etc should also request a durty of care transfer note and this is a legal document which you must keep for 2 years which councils and EA can ask to see to ensure waste is being dipsoed of (not fly tipped etc) propeerly as you sre a business. Farmers can take the waste and put it on their land as a fertiliser but they still need to be reg waste carrier and need to record how much they take on thier field records and give you paperwork.

If you are not business but have your own horses or keep a few horses on a farm etc but are NOT a business then the farmer can take the muck away and spread it on his fields as a fertilsier and he must only record how much he puts on for his records. you can burn it but MUST NOT create nuisance, black smoke or harm to health or the environment whcih includes leaving fires smouldering for days and annoying people.

Horse muck is not hazardous waste.

beforer anyone shouts we are farmers too and i also advise and help farmers as well as working for the EA and owning horses.
 
That makes sense about it not being hazardous. Septic tank waste is apparently non hazardous (according to the signs on the back of the tankers) and I know which one I'd rather come in close contact with...
 
Septic tank waste is not hazardous. Hazardous waste includes things like waste engine oil, or any oils generally, all types of batteries, any old electircal equipment (also classed as WEEE), tyres, brake pads, chemicals, paints etc.
 
We simply spread our well rotted manure on our resting fields as fertlilser - and never have any taken away. I cannot understand why people have their muck taken away. Change to a bedding that rots down to black peat in 2 months and then get is spread. it costs me about £100 every 6 months to have my fields muck spread and it is definitly far far cheaper than fertiliser. No paperwork required, and a huge improvement in field quality and a better haylage crop the following year.
 
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