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Hi everyone, have recently sold my horse after switching from eventing to show jumping. I am now in the very fortunate position of having a bit of money to play around with to buy my new jumper. I am looking for a 6-11 year old jumper jumping at 1.20/125 or the ability to do so. I am looking for a nice easy type to handle on the ground and a nice straight forward ride no quirks. I was wondering what people would be prepared to pay for a competitive horse of this calibre? Thanks so much!
 
What will make it expensive is a 6yo would be jumping 1.20m for age classes so you would expect it to carry on up the levels. 7/8yo would possibly still be in NC or Fox so if enough ability would have 2nd rounds and at 9/10 they have maybe topped out at 1.30m but that’s still a pretty decent horse. Your better deal financially would be to look for a 7yo who has done newcomers with ability to go further. Out of age classes, proving useful at 1.10m but easy enough to see jumping it whether it will carry on.
 
ihatework said:
I’d imagine an easy competitive 1.20 horse in the age range specified would be double that. But sj isn’t my area of expertise so I could be wrong
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ihatework said:
I’d imagine an easy competitive 1.20 horse in the age range specified would be double that. But sj isn’t my area of expertise so I could be wrong
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My Grade B was £2200 in 1997, probably around £18k now. He'd done speed classes and derby's abroad and had an extensive record jumping 1.20/1.30m with the odd 1.40m.

He'd reached his pinnacle, wouldn't jump higher than 1.40m. So was sold cheaply.
 

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horseyyy321 said:
Thats what I would have thought but after skimming through a few adverts the general price range seems to be £45k +
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Not the one's I've just seen on HQ.
But how long is a piece of string? You could sell a horse to someone for £500 or to someone else for £5000k it's like anything, it pays to shop around.

Some of the prices you see for the type of horse I'm after are laughable. My Bailey had done more on one hoof than they'd done in their entire lifetime and yet they wanted 50% more, (bearing in mind inflation and today's prices). In fact one horse I enquired about early on in my search wanted 30k and it hadn't jumped even jumped competitively at that stage! It had potential but a seaside donkey has potential I guess. 😉

The ones in the photos look amazing.
This time of year they are a bit cheaper anyway.
 
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A sjer who is a terrific hunter is not a sjer. They are also mostly 13 years old which means they are maybe a diesel horse for someone at 1.10m but are not really 1.20m horses.

A diesel horse for Aintree classes would be around that kind of money because they are done at anything above 1.10m or you can get experience at 1.20m but it will be with 4-8 faults.

So Op it depends what you want - a genuine 1.20m horse who will jump clear or a cheaper one who maybe isn’t that careful and isn’t a proper 1.20m horse or a diesel horse at 1.10m where you will win most weekends at 1.05/1.10 and have a lovely time at Aintree and doing bronze league.
 
LEC said:
What will make it expensive is a 6yo would be jumping 1.20m for age classes so you would expect it to carry on up the levels. 7/8yo would possibly still be in NC or Fox so if enough ability would have 2nd rounds and at 9/10 they have maybe topped out at 1.30m but that’s still a pretty decent horse. Your better deal financially would be to look for a 7yo who has done newcomers with ability to go further. Out of age classes, proving useful at 1.10m but easy enough to see jumping it whether it will carry on.
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Precisely. And as the OP specifically stated they wanted an easy and competitive horse at the level with a max age 11 that is why they aren’t finding much at 15-20k.
 
With £30k you could probably get an 8yo which hasn't got the scope for 1.30+ and has a small quirk or vet issue
Looking at 6yo already jumping that height you are in with the 'potential' money and that could be bigger.
Be honest with yourself and what you need. There will be owners out there who want to get out of a horse who isn't for the big tracks- but just be prepared that if they were bought and produced with that in mind, they might not be overly amateur friendly.
If you are prepared to take a 4faulter at 1.20 you would open the door a bit further.
If you want to jump 1.10 -1.15 but not bigger, you should get what you need for 25k with a clean vetting
 
ihatework said:
This has nothing to do with you in 1997 😆
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Oh for goodness sake! Read the post. I'm just saying you can get really good horses without paying a fortune especially if they are confident doing the height you are looking for. Please try to resist twisting everything I say. Thanks
 
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Birker2020 said:
My Grade B was £2200 in 1997, probably around £18k now. He'd done speed classes and derby's abroad and had an extensive record jumping 1.20/1.30m with the odd 1.40m.

He'd reached his pinnacle, wouldn't jump higher than 1.40m. So was sold cheaply.
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You got a bargain! If he was still up to jumping 1.20s clear and under 11, easy and quirk free then that was a great buy.

20-30k would be a realistic value today, with all of the caveats mentioned by other posters as to genuine competitiveness at that level
 
Put it this way.About 3 years ago I was looking for a new horse.I saw advertized a Heavy weight cob,from memory about 9 years old.He was about 15HH.Advertized as anyones ride, good to load,clip,with farrier and vet.Hacked out safely on his own or in company.Competed successfuly to a decent level in showing and up to elementary level dressage.She was asking £23.000 for him and she got it asap.I know because I was interested but couldn't get there quick enough.Someone local obviously knew this horse and snapped him up very quickly.
If you had the same horse but in a sports horses body and say 16.2hh how much extra would he cost even supposing he came on the open market at all? An extra £20.000 £30.000?
 
TheMule said:
You got a bargain! If he was still up to jumping 1.20s clear and under 11, easy and quirk free then that was a great buy.

20-30k would be a realistic value today, with all of the caveats mentioned by other posters as to genuine competitiveness at that level
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The horses on HQ that I screenshot on a previous post were much cheaper though.

Do you think it's maybe because they aren't consistent or do you think it's just the time of year?
 
LEC said:
Shame there is not a 🍆 button sometimes on this forum
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It's a forum, and I am part of it. Therefore I'm allowed to speak and not governed by whether you agree or not. If you don't like what I write kindly scroll on by please 😀 thanks
 
I was astonished at the prices Birker said were achievable, so had a look on Horsequest, albeit in the size I would be interested in (15.3-16.1) and a slightly wider age group (8-18). Got to keep my eye in!

I found one in Birker's price range which lost an eye last autumn and has a fused hock. That said, I'm not rubbishing the horse as it has recent/current videos of it jumping rather nicely. Really nice. But, that was 15k (from memory, I've been out and done my own horses since) as a heavy reduction in price.

I've also seen a nice one similar money, but more of a general all rounder with a sarcoid and much less experience.

Some others in a similar price range but all less experienced or having had time out/suspicious discrepancies, or declared issues.

So, although I was looking at my own criteria, comparatively, I think doubling the price Birker said would be reasonable for the horse as described by OP. I was sad though, thought prices had taken a dive and was *almost* tempted LOL.
 
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Birker2020 said:
The horses on HQ that I screenshot on a previous post were much cheaper though.

Do you think it's maybe because they aren't consistent or do you think it's just the time of year?
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I would imagine the ones you screenshotted all have a reason why they are not more money. Presumably a manageable veterinary issue or a quirk/ vice. The OP seems to want something more straightforward. Now is a perfect time of year to buy or sell a horse- Spring is in the air and Summer grazing is opening up.
 
My take on things having gone direct to the Adverts:

Horse 1: 'Lovely Competitive Schoolmaster'
13 (older than spec) and crucially PREVIOUSLY jumped to 1.20. Now doing lower stuff. This is an allrounder with sj bias lower level horse now. Not a competitive 1.20m horse. About accurately priced for what he is but not what the OP was looking for.

Horse 2: 'Future Champion in the making'
5yo (younger than spec) and jumping 1.20/30 already, there are holes in his way of going and he's been overdone imo. Stuff to like with his jump but I smell a rat and this isn't an amatuers horse I suspect.

Horse 3: 'Hendrix 1'
I like him. Older than the OP wanted but worth a call. I haven't checked his record to see how competitive he is but he looks honest. Worth a call but I wouldn't be surprised with some vet management on this one.

Horse 4: 'Grade A Showjump Schoolmaster
Nice horse thats been ruined and in no way shape or form a sj schoolmaster as currently stands and does not currently meet OP requirements of easy and competitive. Seems honestly described in the advert and for the right rider could be a good buy. But this is not what the OP is asking for.
 
ihatework said:
My take on things having gone direct to the Adverts:

Horse 1: 'Lovely Competitive Schoolmaster'
13 (older than spec) and crucially PREVIOUSLY jumped to 1.20. Now doing lower stuff. This is an allrounder with sj bias lower level horse now. Not a competitive 1.20m horse. About accurately priced for what he is but not what the OP was looking for.

Horse 2: 'Future Champion in the making'
5yo (younger than spec) and jumping 1.20/30 already, there are holes in his way of going and he's been overdone imo. Stuff to like with his jump but I smell a rat and this isn't an amatuers horse I suspect.

Horse 3: 'Hendrix 1'
I like him. Older than the OP wanted but worth a call. I haven't checked his record to see how competitive he is but he looks honest. Worth a call but I wouldn't be surprised with some vet management on this one.

Horse 4: 'Grade A Showjump Schoolmaster
Nice horse thats been ruined and in no way shape or form a sj schoolmaster as currently stands and does not currently meet OP requirements of easy and competitive. Seems honestly described in the advert and for the right rider could be a good buy. But this is not what the OP is asking for.
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Mine was more succinct :D

eta my emojis have disappeared and I can't remember the typing keys for a crying with laughter face. But that's what I meant!
 
Birker2020 said:
It's a forum, and I am part of it. Therefore I'm allowed to speak and not governed by whether you agree or not. If you don't like what I write kindly scroll on by please 😀 thanks
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Birker2020 said:
Right ho

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Why do you think these were aimed at you? You weren't tagged or quoted in the replies by LEC or JenJ. In the nicest way possible, stop having such a victim mentality. Believe it or not, not everyone is talking to or about you.

Sorry OP, nothing to say on the prices but came here to see out of curiosity until I noticed yet another thread going the same way. Can't believe the prices nowadays!
 
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