Horse put down/RSPCA can't be bothered?

ester said:
That would need certain people to pay to have them passported and microchipped to though. I do suspect the requirement to chip has potentially increased the number of dumpees that we are seeing at the moment as they can no longer be sent to the local knacker.
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yes it would but if a horse arrived a the knackers without a chip then legally it is not owned so no-one would get any money, if the horse was worth £80 and chipping it cost £20-30 I do think they would have them done?

If there was a central data base for all chips then passports could be made redundant too?
 
I will no doubt be shot down here but I actually think the RSPCA and other charities should pts more animals (large and small) rather than spend a fortune on treating them when there is such a crisis in unwanted animals at the moment. Lengthy expensive treatment is one thing when an animal is in a loving home, but putting one through it when there is no knowing what the outcome will be for them is a waste of funds in my view.
 
9tails said:
"Although an experienced horse handler and transporter and vet were at the scene, and assisted with many attempts to get the horse to stand over two hours, it became apparent the horse was far too weak and unable to support his own weight." What more do you expect them to do?
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I agree with you, the horse was not put down by the RSPCA but by a vet who was on scene,the OP was not there so how does she know the horse was put down too soon.

I was a helper in a case of a down horse, there were several of us & an exerienced vet who bought sailing ropes with her (she said these are the best ropes to use) the decision was made to put him down after about an hour & several attempts, as he had given up. He wasn't even trying anymore.
It is an upsetting enough thing to deal with without people who weren't even there deciding that they know better than those who were.
 
twiggy2 said:
passports need getting rid of in my opinion, they are just a money maker as they are not proof of ownership or linked to where a horse is kept-meaning it would just be cost of chipping
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So how does the chip work without a passport?. Nearly all the cost in chipping is the cost of the vet, chips cost £1-2 I could do all my own but I am not allowed to can do any other animal apart from a horse,Why?
They cant play the welfare card!
 
9tails said:
"Although an experienced horse handler and transporter and vet were at the scene, and assisted with many attempts to get the horse to stand over two hours, it became apparent the horse was far too weak and unable to support his own weight." What more do you expect them to do?
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From the photo the pony is thin but alert and interested in what is going on around it. Why not put up a temporary shelter, roll it onto some bedding, ensure plenty of feed and see what happens, if necessary a drip? Spending two hours hauling it about is bound to stress its system and weaken it further. Other much thinner ponies have been brought back from the brink after all and used as fund raising material so it seems very much to be pot luck for animals in terms of the treatment they get.



The big problem is economics and laws and regulations that encourage people to act irresponsibly. That and the general condemnation of even the thought of the meat market.
 
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Fenris said:
From the photo the pony is thin but alert and interested in what is going on around it. Why not put up a temporary shelter, roll it onto some bedding, ensure plenty of feed and see what happens, if necessary a drip? Spending two hours hauling it about is bound to stress its system and weaken it further. Other much thinner ponies have been brought back from the brink after all and used as fund raising material so it seems very much to be pot luck for animals in terms of the treatment they get.



The big problem is economics and laws and regulations that encourage people to act irresponsibly. That and the general condemnation of even the thought of the meat market.
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Why make the poor little sod suffer any further? Better a week to early than a day too late...
 
popsdosh said:
So how does the chip work without a passport?. Nearly all the cost in chipping is the cost of the vet, chips cost £1-2 I could do all my own but I am not allowed to can do any other animal apart from a horse,Why?
They cant play the welfare card!
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that the horse would be registered on a central data base via its chip number ad it would be legal proof of ownership-a horse presented to be Slaughtered would be scanned and the person presenting the horse would have to provide proof of identity-I am just thinking aloud it is just if a horse was worth money for meat I think numbers found in such dire situations would reduce massively
 
Fenris said:
From the photo the pony is thin but alert and interested in what is going on around it. Why not put up a temporary shelter, roll it onto some bedding, ensure plenty of feed and see what happens, if necessary a drip? Spending two hours hauling it about is bound to stress its system and weaken it further. Other much thinner ponies have been brought back from the brink after all and used as fund raising material so it seems very much to be pot luck for animals in terms of the treatment they get.



The big problem is economics and laws and regulations that encourage people to act irresponsibly. That and the general condemnation of even the thought of the meat market.
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And you would know so much more about the situation than the vet who was on site? My previous post read: the phrase, You're damned if you do and damned if you don't - comes to mind. Your post proves this exactly.

Given that all the horse rescue centres are already full with the unwanted dregs from the indiscriminate breeding from equine owners - I doubt you'd find any of them willing to take in an equine that couldn't even stand, in today's situation. And yet, they still used a photo to highlight their plight! and bloody rightly so too.
 
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Fenris said:
From the photo the pony is thin but alert and interested in what is going on around it. Why not put up a temporary shelter, roll it onto some bedding, ensure plenty of feed and see what happens, if necessary a drip? Spending two hours hauling it about is bound to stress its system and weaken it further. Other much thinner ponies have been brought back from the brink after all and used as fund raising material so it seems very much to be pot luck for animals in terms of the treatment they get.
How can you tell the pony was alert & intersested from one photo, even if he was when the photo was taken how do you know he stayed that way for another 2 hours?
The horse I tried to help was rolled over using ropes & was alert for a short time but it didn't last long he quickly gave up, have you ever been part of a group of people trying to help a down horse?
Until you have you can't know how difficult it is, it was about 2 years ago for me & it still upsets me to think about.
You say that other thinner ponies have come back to full health but maybe they still had some fight in them, if they give up there's nothing more you can do & they simply start to die in front of you, it's a horrible thing to witness & all you can do is put them down.
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