Horse Slaughter - Americas Dirty Little Secret - (Fallen Grace)

Not really a very useful video. Since US horse slaughter was banned I think you'll find everything has got a whole lot worse.

I agree with the message about stopping breeding more horses though.
 
I can't watch that. I have seen an American Humane Society video of Mexican slaughter houses.

It is easy to say don't breed horses but you won't stop TB breeding for the race track because there is money to be made by the few stars.

It is thought that many Newmarket trainers will not survive and look at the welfare problems in Ireland. Travellers pale into insignificance in comparisom.
 
I couldn't watch it. Sadly I've seen it all before, and what has been seen can never be unseen..:(:(

As TheMule said, closing the US slaughter houses just made it worse, because now the horses have to endure a harrowing journey packed into double deckers with no food or water to reach plants in Mexico or Canada instead.

The thing is, it's happening on our own doorstep too, with horses shipped long distance to meet the demand for horse meat on the continent.
 
From what I understand, most of the "horror videos" of slaughter were filmed in Mexico, where the majority of American horses are now shipped following the States' ban. Rather shot themselves in the foot, for want of a better phrase.
 
Banning horse slaughter in America has made things much worse. The animals are now shipped in terrible conditions to Mexico where it is legal to kill horses.

There was a spate of horse killings for meat in America where family horses were found in their fields or stables stripped of their meat and just their carcuss left as it pushed the trade in horse meat to the underground. I am signed up to TheHorse.com where all these stories were published and some of the tales of horses found by their owners, dead and butchered for their meat, was sickening. :(

Banning slaughter is not the answer. Reducing breeding as the video trys to get across is part of the answer but not the full solution.
 
God forbid the fluffy bunnies get their way in the UK.

We need MORE abattoirs here..the USA should have one for horses in every state.

if i had the money, i would open an Abattoir somewhere in the UK specifically for Horses..and believe me, it would be THE best run Abattoir imaginable.
 
Y'know the most upsetting thing about that video is that some of those horses are really rather nice. Not the yangers off the hills over here, they look like they have been bred with a purpose in mind, they're not all ex racers either. :(
 
nativeponies said:
God forbid the fluffy bunnies get their way in the UK.

We need MORE abattoirs here..the USA should have one for horses in every state.

if i had the money, i would open an Abattoir somewhere in the UK specifically for Horses..and believe me, it would be THE best run Abattoir imaginable.
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Maybe if you had the money, it would be more useful to provide someone to go to the horse's home and shoot it at home and collect it rather than it have to endure a trip to an abbatoir and the stress involved with that.
 
Slaughter should not be banned, it should be improved ALOT.
Have to face the facts that it is going to be done, so have to improve what is inevitable. the poor things should not suffer long journeys starved, trampled and injured. They should have a quick death with improved methods, after all death isnt the painful part- it is the transport and killing that is and the mental tortue on the animals. people should spend less time trying to ban slaughter and more time trying to fund improvements in the industry for the horses sake.
 
If it has to be done...The horse should be killed where it is. In a place where it is comfortable and unafraid and as happy as possible. Then only when dead should it be transported to where ever necessary.
Will this ever happen? I expect not. It's pretty sick and the reason I shall keep my horse till the end of his days. Because I owe it to him to be there at the end, to see that he doesn't suffer.
 
It just wouldn't be feasible to run around the country shooting unwanted animals at home/markets/sales etc.

I agree that the individual horse owner should have that choice, and that service is already available at local level.

But there is a distinct lack of multi use Abattoirs in the UK hence my comment.
 
LizzyandToddy said:
If it has to be done...The horse should be killed where it is. In a place where it is comfortable and unafraid and as happy as possible. Then only when dead should it be transported to where ever necessary.
Will this ever happen? I expect not. It's pretty sick and the reason I shall keep my horse till the end of his days. Because I owe it to him to be there at the end, to see that he doesn't suffer.
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Im keeping my two until their time comes. I will never sell,give away any of my babies.They have a home for life too.
Some of those horses were quite nice,shame they had to go to slaughter.Poor things.
 
It's good to hear that some other horse folks have some common sense. Horse slaughter was banned here by people who pretty much look at horses like a Disney hero, rather than livestock. US horse slaughter humane laws were some of the best in the world, and the animal rights activists sought out examples of where those laws WERE'NT followed and described the whole industry as being that inhumane. Now horse slaughter is horrible.

Slaughter horses split and go in two directions from the US. Some go to Mexico, the very lucky ones go to Canada - where there still are humane laws regarding slaughter that ARE adhered to.

The result of all that "good work" the activists have enacted is that horses STILL go to slaughter, but its much, much worse... for the horses, but for our economy as well. The rescues are flooded, horses are dumped to die on open ranges, or in suburban areas. I guess you DO get what you ask for... its too bad people let their own selfish emotions get in the way of whats fair to a suffering animal.
 
I was gobsmacked to find horsemeat imported from MEXICO along with the supposedly 'national' horsemeat at my local supermarket. With Italy importing from France, Spain, Poland, Bielorussia and the other eastern block states, why are we importing from bloody Mexico???? The longer I live, the more confused (and sickened) I become.
Slaughterhouses are a sad ending for many an animal but there are worse things than death.
 
sallywhoa said:
It's good to hear that some other horse folks have some common sense. Horse slaughter was banned here by people who pretty much look at horses like a Disney hero, rather than livestock. US horse slaughter humane laws were some of the best in the world, and the animal rights activists sought out examples of where those laws WERE'NT followed and described the whole industry as being that inhumane. Now horse slaughter is horrible.

Slaughter horses split and go in two directions from the US. Some go to Mexico, the very lucky ones go to Canada - where there still are humane laws regarding slaughter that ARE adhered to.

The result of all that "good work" the activists have enacted is that horses STILL go to slaughter, but its much, much worse... for the horses, but for our economy as well. The rescues are flooded, horses are dumped to die on open ranges, or in suburban areas. I guess you DO get what you ask for... its too bad people let their own selfish emotions get in the way of whats fair to a suffering animal.
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The people in this video are the same muppets that lobbyed to get the abbatoirs closed in the USA in the first place! What on earth did they think people would do with all their unwanted horses!There is a world recesssion FGS!
 
How about this? Penalise the horse sport breeding industry for over producing. Instead of them making money from the kill buyers. Might make them seriously re-think their breeding strategies.
 
Over2You said:
How about this? Penalise the horse sport breeding industry for over producing. Instead of them making money from the kill buyers. Might make them seriously re-think their breeding strategies.
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I'd be all for it if I thought it would work or be enforced. There are dog breeding (esp. pit bull) bans all over the USA. Doesn't work.

What we need is a change in thinking and re-open slaughter plants with a tough criteria for humane slaughter, and to have it ruthlessly overseen. But that would take a change in thinking... and its pretty hard to make a whole country of city people see things your way!

Part of the problem is the huge disconnect people have with anything natural and natural processess. Its an easy vote for someone living in a big city to cast against slaughter when they can't even conceive of what horse overpopulation means. When you put it in the context of unwanted dogs and cats and what to do with them, they start to at least think about it.
 
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