Horse stamping hind legs and kicking out

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My gelding came in from turn-out last year stamping hind legs. Really bothered by something. He didnt repeat it subsequent days so didnt have an ongoing issue - but was left wondering if he had a bite annoying him, causing the stamping. There were no flies around him and no severe tail swishes, so assumed a bite.

I scratched around underlegs/sheath….then he itched doing mega-gymnastic the back of his pastern. So i itched there and he loved it. He stopped stamping. We do have tiny grass ticks here and as theyre biting-in to lodge themselves, they can be just like a horsefly sting. Very annoying and itchy. Trouble is, ticks cant be shook-off by twitching skin/stamping legs easily, due to their hooked legs grabbing hold - so it made sense he’d be stamping vigorously to get the tick to let go. Do you have ticks in your fields?…any long grass areas?, which is where they prefer to hang out.

p.s - ticks can climb tails and lodge into base of tail - once lodged into skin for blood feed of 2-3 days theyre mega itchy all the while theyre feeding. There are some species of ticks that are the size of a small speck of dirt - insanely tiny. We get the bigger ones here too, but the teeny ones are virtually impossible to see once lodged-in. They look like a tiny black speck of dirt on the skin. Only know its really a mini tick when you try to swipe it off, it doesnt move. They are best left on rather than removing them with tick tools or fingers as you’ll risk decapitating them, and they can carry yucky bacteria, so decapitating them runs the risk of head left lodged in, infection etc. Best to treat with an insecticide like icaridin 20% - errin paddywack started a thread today about such a product on fb - im yet to read the thread, but icaridin is good at repelling ticks/midges/horseflies for 6-8hrs. Id try that on his hind legs and tail skin if you do suspect ticks.
 
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my "drama lama" is yellow dun think skinned. We have kicking, stamping, back leg snatching and everything else when he gets a crab fly.
He is my only dun and out of every other colour horse I have he is always the one with problems. The others cope well with crab flies and most other flies. For him it is the end of the world.

I don't know if buckskin is your problem especially now in the fly season.

That's interesting to know. The other two are a bay and a grey and have no issue. Would crab flies be an issue in Sussex?? I don't know much about them. We are on chalk Downland.
 

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My gelding came in from turn-out last year stamping hind legs. Really bothered by something. He didnt repeat it subsequent days so didnt have an ongoing issue - but was left wondering if he had a bite annoying him, causing the stamping. There were no flies around him and no severe tail swishes, so assumed a bite.

I scratched around underlegs/sheath….then he itched doing mega-gymnastic the back of his pastern. So i itched there and he loved it. He stopped stamping. We do have tiny grass ticks here and as theyre biting-in to lodge themselves, they can be just like a horsefly sting. Very annoying and itchy. Trouble is, ticks cant be shook-off by twitching skin/stamping legs easily, due to their hooked legs grabbing hold - so it made sense he’d be stamping vigorously to get the tick to let go. Do you have ticks in your fields?…any long grass areas?, which is where they prefer to hang out.

Now that's a thought. We certainly have ticks. Our dogs have been picking up loads. I'm strip grazing them in bit of the field with longer grass so I guess that's possible. I will check him over. Thanks.
 

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Now that's a thought. We certainly have ticks. Our dogs have been picking up loads. I'm strip grazing them in bit of the field with longer grass so I guess that's possible. I will check him over. Thanks.

i just edited my reply to add further info. A spray sounds worth a try. Icaridin is strong and effective, but not toxic like DEET so worth trying.
 

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My gelding came in from turn-out last year stamping hind legs. Really bothered by something. He didnt repeat it subsequent days so didnt have an ongoing issue - but was left wondering if he had a bite annoying him, causing the stamping. There were no flies around him and no severe tail swishes, so assumed a bite.

I scratched around underlegs/sheath….then he itched doing mega-gymnastic the back of his pastern. So i itched there and he loved it. He stopped stamping. We do have tiny grass ticks here and as theyre biting-in to lodge themselves, they can be just like a horsefly sting. Very annoying and itchy. Trouble is, ticks cant be shook-off by twitching skin/stamping legs easily, due to their hooked legs grabbing hold - so it made sense he’d be stamping vigorously to get the tick to let go. Do you have ticks in your fields?…any long grass areas?, which is where they prefer to hang out.

p.s - ticks can climb tails and lodge into base of tail - once lodged into skin for blood feed of 2-3 days theyre mega itchy all the while theyre feeding. There are some species of ticks that are the size of a small speck of dirt - insanely tiny. We get the bigger ones here too, but the teeny ones are virtually impossible to see once lodged-in. They look like a tiny black speck of dirt on the skin. Only know its really a mini tick when you try to swipe it off, it doesnt move. They are best left on rather than removing them with tick tools or fingers as you’ll risk decapitating them, and they can carry yucky bacteria, so decapitating them runs the risk of head left lodged in, infection etc. Best to treat with an insecticide like icaridin 20% - errin paddywack started a thread today about such a product on fb - im yet to read the thread, but icaridin is good at repelling ticks/midges/horseflies for 6-8hrs. Id try that on his hind legs and tail skin if you do suspect ticks.
We have had a few here do this, and we find little round mud/dirt holes where they do it. Mixture of thoughts, feather mites, itchy heals insects buzzing round, itchy legs.
 

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We have had a few here do this, and we find little round mud/dirt holes where they do it. Mixture of thoughts, feather mites, itchy heals insects buzzing round, itchy legs.
He does like to dig "wallows" and is a keen roller so maybe picking up something in the mud.
 

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my "drama lama" is yellow dun think skinned. We have kicking, stamping, back leg snatching and everything else when he gets a crab fly.
He is my only dun and out of every other colour horse I have he is always the one with problems. The others cope well with crab flies and most other flies. For him it is the end of the world.

I don't know if buckskin is your problem especially now in the fly season.

That's really interesting. Perhaps some fly does prefer that colour (a lot of people do, sop why not flies?).

Seems a bit extreme for pinworm only. I'm thinking some kind of wretched fly or mite.
 

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Back in the day when the British Equestrian centre was at Stoneleigh I remember that there was a problem with the second school. Some sort of microscopic biting insect which drove some horses mad. A friend's stallion was particularly badly affected, constantly bucking while he was in there. Main school was ok.
 
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