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tillytime

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Hi, I have an 18 month gelding and wanted opinions on books to suggest family buy me for Xmas on in hand work with him.
The previous owner started doing perelli with him, which I was going to embrace but just don't 'get it'!
He is good to catch (although doesn't come to call) he leads well (although keen to be a little too close to me). He's great to groom, lifts feet etc.

I'm thinking of maybe looking into the monty Roberts type of training.

Does anyone have any thoughts / recommendations for me?
 
I like all kinds of in-hand work - Parelli is fun (I know lots of people on here don't like it, I couldn't care less, the games are useful and really fun to do with your horse, my horse thinks so too :)), classical dressage in hand exercises are really beneficial, trick training is fun, join up is useful but I have no idea where Monty Roberts goes from there (long reining?)...
Personally though, I'm not one for learning from books. If it were me I would ask for lessons instead as I get really confused learning from books and DVDs so I have lessons from a classical trainer and a Parelli instructor (and I find a lot of parallels in the two methods) then I play around with tricks sometimes by myself but not too much.
 
I have used various monty roberts books. His idea of joing up is well worth a try and he uses long reining after that. Definatly worth a read in my opinion anyway :)
 
Thanks for the responses. Having lessons is something I'm seriously considering. Glad to hear parelli can work along side other methods. I was worried I may confuse him. :)
 
tillytime said:
Thanks for the responses. Having lessons is something I'm seriously considering. Glad to hear parelli can work along side other methods. I was worried I may confuse him. :)
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You will find that Philip Karl has a number of high level Parelli students in training with him, quite an achievement in itself. Horses get Parelli, (just one of a multitude of NH methods), people don't.
 
Pale Rider said:
You will find that Philip Karl has a number of high level Parelli students in training with him, quite an achievement in itself. Horses get Parelli, (just one of a multitude of NH methods), people don't.
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This is so true!! Parelli is still the basis of what I do with my ponies even though I have moved on!! PNH was - and I say was! - a people training programme rather than a horse training programme!! And the basics are as true as always!!
 
I don't think you should do join up just for the sake of doing join up, and certainly not from a book as it's so easy to confuse the horse if you don't know how to read his signals right or if you are giving the wrong signals. Join up to me always seems like an extreme part of training as it's really a punishment to send the horse away from the herd. I have done the MR intro course so do know how to do it but I have only ever had need to if a horse is being very rude and potentially dangerous.
I would go for classical exercises and if you want stuff to do just general de spooking, get some tarpaulin, road cones, umbrellas, let your horse investigate. The more you can expose him to know and give him positive experiences the better a riding horse he will become
 
ridefast said:
I don't think you should do join up just for the sake of doing join up, and certainly not from a book as it's so easy to confuse the horse if you don't know how to read his signals right or if you are giving the wrong signals.
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I agree.
For basic stuff Kelly Marks's Perfect Manners book is a good start for these concepts.
 
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