Horses that bronc

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What are your thoughts on them? Ive never liked them but seem to have aquired one. Ive seen him do serious broncs on the lunge and always thought it might be his "thing" but today he put it into action. It was only the second time ridden outside and I could feel he was tense. We asked him to walk on and next thing I know im on my backside.

What are the chances of him growing out of it. I had my doubts about him before and if someone offered the right amount for him I would accept it. Hes great in every other way.
 
I accquired one in the shape of Juno. hers was about every 2 minutes or the instant I asked her to 'use' herself.
Thankfully she now understands that complying with my requests is the EASY option. Broncing (or standing on her back legs) has repercussion for her that are less than fun.
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Hasn't bronced or reared for almost a month now. Ooops, I shouldn't have said that
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Sorry not alot
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, it's more likely that you'll see sign and push them through it. I have one that does little one and i find it very funny as it's not a napping habit BUT a it's when his feel well habit which is why i don't mind and he never trys to put me on floor
But saying that i have ridden ones that have a napping bronc and that's horrible waiting for the buck to appear
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Now in to our 4th month together. Hers were full 4 legs off the floor jobs. Her whole aim was to intimidate the rider and get them to back off. Once she realised I wasn't intimidated nor was I about to lessen my requests she started behaving sweetly.
 
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Lol, glad you said that. I was beginning to think I was being pathetic and cant ride, that and I should give up horses and take up knitting.
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Can i join that too lol yesterday i got on my mare and couldn't get in the school, she went on strike. she has a tendancy to buck but i am getting to know the signs now
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i've had some grow out of it, some not. one did it once and i was so incensed that i gave him hell from the ground, and he never did it again in his entire life, he was very smart and realised that mummy just dumped on the ground was a far far worse thing than mummy in the plate...! it's an option...
my young FO mare broncs like an absolute pro on the lunge, the worst i've ever seen that didn't have a cowboy on top, but so far hasn't thought of using it under saddle, thank the lord...
 
For 2nd time ridden properly I wouldnt label him a broncer just yet- I'd just ease up a little bit as it was obviously a reaction to something he isnt quite comfortabel with.
 
Mine broncs. It's his 'thing'. Now that he is older he doesn't do it as much, but then equally I have learnt how to deal with him and also how to sit to it.

Saying that he very nearly had me off last week!!
 
I wrote out a huge long reply and my boss came round and I had to shut HHO down!!

Bailey used to bronc (which TriggersDouble will have to verify as he is so good now none of the girls at my new yard believe he could put a foot wrong!!)

As a 4 year old he was really quite spooky- as soon as he did'nt like something he would go completely solid and as you put your leg all four feet would leave the floor! The good news is he has totally grwon out of it and I think you could probably put a rocket up his bum now and he wouldnt launch.

As its only your lads second time out under saddle I think I would give him the benefit of the doubt- keep everything very quiet and not put him in a situation where he gets tense until he has more confidence in himself and you

Good luck and I hope your not too sore tomorrow
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mine bronked like a good un as a 4/5yo - usually when asked to do something a little difficult, he found it very hard to balance in a smallish arena (he's 16.2) and I found it helped to work him in a big field - used to find cantering on a curve in a 20m wide arena hard - grew out of it

These were huge fly bucks, all 4 feet off the floor with a twist jobs - quite how that was easier than cantering a circle
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Lol, glad you said that. I was beginning to think I was being pathetic and cant ride, that and I should give up horses and take up knitting.
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Please can I join this too. My beast has always had the abilty but usually its rarely seen, sadly its coming out constantly when hacking at the moment, its a case of sit as still as I can, legs wrapped round til I can send her forwards - til we repeat the process. I have to say I am throughly bored of the whole thing.
 
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its a case of sit as still as I can, legs wrapped round til I can send her forwards

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I'll add to this 'don't breathe'!!

I think this slightly warmer spell coupled with the longer days has put a bit of a spring in their step at the mo
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I had the (mis)fortune to have a broncing pony when I was 10/11. The first few months I had him were hell, nearly broke my neck once. He was 21 so old enough to know better. Eventually he stopped doing it - maybe I started sitting them better but I doubt it, more like he got bored. He was terrible again at PC Camp, which was a shame as when we did pony swaps I wasn't allowed to as he wasn't considered safe for the other kids to ride
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But, that was sheer excitement.

Most do seem to grow out of it. My current horse has got a horrendous buck combined with 180 degree whip-round and all I can do is hope I can go with him, or land softly if not. He's only 5 so although he gets an almighty wallop (or two) for it, I hope it's just the folly of youth!

Word of warning which I'm sure you already know - if you are lucky enough to have stayed on the bronc, and you choose to smack them hard, hang on tight. VERY tight.
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I sent him forwards on the lunge straight away. Once he was tired I got back on and walked round again. Ive seen him do it on the lunge and always thought he might do it when I asked him to trot, but I never thought he would do it in walk!

Boss, I know im probably being a little hasty but I dont fancy being dumped everyday
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He does it on the lunge too so know that he is more than capable.
 
To answer the first question, lots and lots.
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But I've broken lots of horses and bucking, in my opinion, is not "normal" when it persists, even on the longe. My general rule is horses don't get to "play" while they work and if they're doing it for some other reason than high spirits it's my problem, not theirs, since it's my idea to make them a riding horse. That sounds pretty dictatorial but I've been at this awhile and still have all my bits in relatively working order so I'm happy with my system.
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As to the solution, it completely depends on the trigger so can't really offer anything without seeing. In a horse at the stage you're discussing, though, I'd say some combination of panic/confusion/lack of preparation/discomfort. To further confuse things, it doesn't necessarily have to be whatever was happening at the moment the horse went off that is actually causing the behaviour.

Sorry, that sounds harsh, but I'm hugely invested in NOT having horses behave this way and I've had much more luck addressing the situation through training and management than simply "riding through it". The exception would be an older horse that's developed a habit but obviously they whole point with babies is to avoid that sort of thing as much as possible.

Not very helpful, sorry. Really one of those things, in my opinion, you can't tell without seeing.
 
I really dont think hes in any pain or discomfort. I think hes slightly cold backed as when he does it on the lunge its usually when im doing something new. He did it when I first put the roller on and again when I tightened it. He was a little tense today but all he was asked to do was walk on. I fully expected him to have a go when I first asked him to trot.
I just dont want him to start doing it when I start asking questions of him, I dont mind little paddies but not all feet off the ground broncing.
 
Sorry, I wasn't saying he was necessarily in pain. merely that he was feeling pressure he could not deal with or resolve in an acceptable way. WHAT pressure would depend on too many factors. Discomfort comes in many forms and explosions are just the most violent form of releasing pressure.

It would seem reasonable to have him a little more tired next time, as you say, as this removes one potential pressure. I also presume you're taking all the usual safety precautions, including such often overlooked things such as using a saddle suitable for the task, adjusting stirrups etc.

If it is his "thing" - his first go to reaction - then yes, you should expect it every time the pressure gets too much for him. Which is not to say I think it's acceptable, just that it shouldn't be a surprise, as you say. I always want to know what form pressure release will take with each horse so I can work to recognise the signs, moderate the pressure, and hopefully not make the horse want to react that way in the first place. Some days it works better than others.
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Better than one that rears,
I can deal wtih bucking, i manage to stick on quite well and it doesnt fuss me too much, but something that rears doesnt stay with me very long, its too dangerous
 
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