How can you tell if a horse has raced?

[Parkranger]

Just interested really.

Say you buy a horse that's come over from Ireland without a passport (as most horses seemed to up until a year ago).

How would you tell if the horse had raced at all - ie what habits etc would you associate with a race horse?

or is there no way of telling?

 

[Seahorse]

Take it to the gallops?

 

[Parkranger]

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Take it to the gallops?

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[CastleMouse]

TBH I don't think there's any "method" of finding out if the horse has raced or not without a passport!

 

[burple]

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Take it to the gallops?

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sorry but pmsl that responce did make me giggle

 

[apkelly01]

See how the horse reacts around small people

 

[Parkranger]

Ok now you're all being mean! haa haa

 

[Seahorse]

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See how the horse reacts around small people

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PMSL

 

[clairencappelli]

I was told by my vet look for thickened tendons, look at the horses back legs- they often have scar tissue if they were jumping brushes from going over them.

I also have found many ex racers to rear when they get excited and my friend who wa s apro jockey said it comes usually from when they are in the stalls waiting to go.

I have horse who came from ireland she only got her passport then the owner i got her from got it to get her over but app she was registered with wetherbys and had done point2point.

There is a blood test you can pay to have done to find out your horses blood lines but i think its very expensive.

 

[nikkiportia]

Without identifying the horse, I don't think you can tell.

 

[nikkiportia]

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There is a blood test you can pay to have done to find out your horses blood lines but i think its very expensive.

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I didn't think the DNA tests could test for bloodlines. I was told in a lecture from weatherbys that the DNA testing that is done on TB foals is compared against the documented parents. If the foal blood doesn't match the parentage they are unable to tell you what the real parentage is. Only that is not what it is supposed to be. On the rare occasions it does happen, appartently it usually turns out the mare was 'empty' to one stallion, then covered by a differrent one.
So I don't know if they can blood test for bloodlines - I may be wrong?

 

[Happytohack]

Head for a wide open field, shorten your stirrups and reins and see what happens

 

[Mrs_Wishkabibble]

I don't know how old yours is but after a certain year all TBs were microchipped, get your vet to see if he has one and if so you could get a duplicate passport from Wetherbys and check on their website to see what races if any he has run.

 

[nikkiportia]

I think they started that in 2000

 

[redmerl]

Try stopping mid gallop, my ex racer wont do it!!

 

[jumpthemoon]

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Try stopping mid gallop, my ex racer wont do it!!

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Try stopping in general! If my ex racers anything to go by, they dont like slowing down

 

[Zoobie]

Arn't you close to Epsom???? take it for a whizz round the track
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[Mrs_Wishkabibble]

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Try stopping mid gallop, my ex racer wont do it!!

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Try stopping in general! If my ex racers anything to go by, they dont like slowing down

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The ones I've had don't have a problem slowing down, thats why they were failed ones! The grey in my sig is the most laid back horse you would ever meet, far too polite to pull your arms off.

 

[PapaFrita]

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I think they started that in 2000

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1999. PF missed it by a year

 

[PapaFrita]

I don't think there's any way of telling. I've had TBs that have raced and some that haven't and they've been sooo different that I wouldn't have been able to tell if the trainer hadn't told me.
If, somehow, you find out the horse's name, you can check on the racing post website.

 

[Toby_Zaphod]

Take it out for a hack with others, put him out in front & see what happens when one of the others comes up along side? Does he let them past or does he quicken?

 

[PennywithHenry]

I suppose you can tell if they exhibit "stereotypical" behaviour without a passport..... but then;

My first horse was an ex racer, but 100% in every way and rode more like an ACP'd carthorse....

My Mums horse was an ex racer and you had no mouth, it used to tank off if it wasn't on concrete, and sometimes when it was. Repeated short, sharp "snatches" of the reins would eventually pull it up. Sometimes.

My old lady came to me with no papers as they'd aparantly been 'lost', it was when ex racers weren't all that favourable, and I feel this may have been concealed....She would get very gee'd up with the slightest contact, you'd have to literally "throw the reins at her" to stop. Where I used to ride there used to be tracks through the field and if she went on them she'd be gone....only stopping at the other end.

 

[seabiscuit]

There is absolutely no way you can tell. An exracehorse is no differnt to any other #normal# horse. Most of them are laid back, normal, safe horses.

 

[vennessa]

Not all horses in raceing yards actualy race. Many fail to make it.

 

[Taboo1968]

And should they really be coming over without passports now????

 

[Baggybreeches]

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There is a blood test you can pay to have done to find out your horses blood lines but i think its very expensive.

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I didn't think the DNA tests could test for bloodlines. I was told in a lecture from weatherbys that the DNA testing that is done on TB foals is compared against the documented parents. If the foal blood doesn't match the parentage they are unable to tell you what the real parentage is. Only that is not what it is supposed to be. On the rare occasions it does happen, appartently it usually turns out the mare was 'empty' to one stallion, then covered by a differrent one.
So I don't know if they can blood test for bloodlines - I may be wrong?

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Thats right, the blood test costs about £80, but is only to prove parentage, not investigate it. There is really no way to tell, my 2 have both raced and are like chalk and cheese to handle and ride.

 

[Smurphy]

Every Weatherbys registered TB will have a microchip, from the microchip number you can gain a copy of horses passport (name,breeding, age) and Weatherbys will be able to tell you if the horse has ever been in training or raced. Give Weatherbys a ring, they are very helpful. Once you have found out the name you can also search the racing post website for the race details, PM me if you need any more info

 

[nikkiportia]

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Every Weatherbys registered TB will have a microchip, from the microchip number you can gain a copy of horses passport (name,breeding, age) and Weatherbys will be able to tell you if the horse has ever been in training or raced. Give Weatherbys a ring, they are very helpful. Once you have found out the name you can also search the racing post website for the race details, PM me if you need any more info

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Not every TB - only those born after 99

 

[Keltic]

My Ex racer had a wonderful 0-60 method!! if i took her down the field with a friend we would line up at the bottom and she would sit right down and leap from a stand still to flat out gallop! just make sure your ready for it otherwise your bounced right out the saddle!! boing!! boing!!

 

[fairhill]

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Take it out for a hack with others, put him out in front & see what happens when one of the others comes up along side? Does he let them past or does he quicken?

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Yep! The ex-racer I had would find an extra gear and really shift when this happened

Not great when you're rapidly running out of bridlepath... Mine was as quiet as they come, unless I took him on a local council fields which seemed to remind him of the gallops... He was ok if I went on my own, but got very giddy if we went there in a group

Mine was born pre-2000 (1982!) but I had his passport, and therefore his racing name so I managed to find out his results from all his races