"How dangerous is horse riding?"

tbh this sound harsh - but ur a drug user and you OD cos the drugs arent pure enough or too strong well thats the risk you knew you where running all along. Taking tax revenue from drugs?? as in the sale of drugs... would that not be then making it legal as people would have to declare sales of drugs in the first place?! All drugs should be classed with more than just the deaths caused by it - its the gateway they open up for people thats the major issue. I have been attacked by a drug user and therefore I think my stance will be different to others. I dont see people getting attacked by horse riders needing to get their next hit?!
 
In my current medical condition, if I fell off, it could kill me. Hopefully this will not be true in a couple of months. Ditto cycling.
 
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tbh this sound harsh - but ur a drug user and you OD cos the drugs arent pure enough or too strong well thats the risk you knew you where running all along. Taking tax revenue from drugs?? as in the sale of drugs... would that not be then making it legal as people would have to declare sales of drugs in the first place?! All drugs should be classed with more than just the deaths caused by it - its the gateway they open up for people thats the major issue. I have been attacked by a drug user and therefore I think my stance will be different to others. I dont see people getting attacked by horse riders needing to get their next hit?!

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Yes, I think the suggestion is to legalise drugs, which would result in a huge decrease in drug related crime, huge decrease in expenditure in attempting to police drug related crime and tax revenues from the sale of drugs.

Driking is a more closely related subject: to excess it has very serious health repercussions, it leads to a lot of crime and anti-social behaviour, yet still remains legal while drugs like canabis are illegal.

Drugs are not illegal because people on them attack others. Attacking others for any reason is illegal in itself because of the harm it causes. If drugs were legal and easily accessible the biggest incentive for crime, i.e. getting the illegal drugs, would disappear. The price of drugs would also drop through the floor.

Just saying...
 
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"How dangerous is horse riding?" - Very. I've had two separate weeks in hospital and one operation thanks to horses, and we all know people who've been killed riding or handling them. I doubt many people need operations or hospital stays as a result of smoking cannabis. That's why the government can't be allowed to start saying they won't fund treatment for smokers, junkies, fatties, etc, because its only a matter of time before participants in dangerous sports are next on the list.
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I don't know . . . given how much tack etc gets stolen in this country . . . it must be going somewhere? Isn't it going to horse owners who are trying to keep the costs of their "habit" down, even though they likely suspect on some level that a crime was committed?

And think how many horse people do cash deals or fudge their taxes in order to support their very expensive habit. And how many horses act in a dangerous way on the roads, endangering others. (I know most don't but that's the point - most druggies aren't attacking people either.)

Just saying . . .
 
more drivel from bureaucrats who haven't got A CLUE!! if i could only climb aboard, (i'm disabled) i'd go like hell without a care in the world, if i came to grief it would have been worth it after a lifetime of riding all sorts, and now not able to ride a thing- if only---
 
The question of safety would be better explored in a less sensationalistic way. Non horse people are curious about this. It is hard to see the perpective when some of us cannot remember what it is like to not know anything about the sport or equine species.

This reminds me a bit of a medical examiner -the person that performs autopsies- when he came to speak at my college. His speech was open to the general student population not just us in the med field who were accustomed to seeing post mortems. The students were all shocked and walking out because he was so used to seeing such things that he was shocked that the students were shocked.

In horse riding we do some pretty dangerous manouvers according to the non horse riding public. They are shocked and we do not find it easy to understand their perspective. My mother in law is shocked even by my picking out my stallion's feet and she was amazed that I have to do it every day.
 
who cares about the "non horsey people"and their thoughts. there is now too much pressure on dangerous this and dangerous that, riding has been the same from the year dot, horses and ponies have been the same fron year dot- why, oh why does there have to be studies (costly!!) in all this stuff. you want to learn to ride etc. then get on and do it, there are more safety
gadgets and clothing than ever before, so just leave the riders to their fun and sport, course its dangerous, living is these days- to reach old age is a lottery!!
 
The study was not on horse riding, it was on drugs, nor was there a suggestion to stop anyone from riding, merely a comparison between two risky activities (riding and drug taking) one of which is legal, the other not.
 
read my post, i never said the studies were on riding in particular or for there to be any stoppage on doing so(riding) its just that riding in all its different spheres should be left be, its a hobby to some as well as fun and a sport to a great many. of course its dangerous but to compare it to drug taking is the most ludicrous and ignorant thing i've ever read!why has every darned thing got to be studied and interfered with, talk about the nanny state!!
 
I'm sorry if I misunderstood your post.

I am afraid I am still not sure what you are saying (of relevance to this thread).

If you are saying that riding should not be legislated against, I completely agree with you (as, probably does Dr N).

If you are saying that riding accidents should not be studied I don't think I agree with you. I think studies into the dangers of riding, e.g. statistics on horse related accidents on the road, or eventing rotational falls, are extremely helpful both for policy initiatives to make riding safer (e.g. lowering speed limits on country roads) and for general information so that people know what risks they are taking.

If you are saying that drug taking should not be studied, I am not sure why not? Again we need to know how dangerous drug taking is, how to prevent people from taking drugs, etc.

Again the comparison was not between riding and drug taking,, it was between the risks of ridng and the risks of some drug taking, the former appearing to be lesser than the latter.

Sorry if I am still missing your point.
 
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I've fallen off FOUR times since I started riding again after breaking my collar bone
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Ha! I knew it!! YOU are skewering the statistics PF! Stop falling off immediately!
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I've fallen off FOUR times since I started riding again after breaking my collar bone
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Ha! I knew it!! YOU are skewering the statistics PF! Stop falling off immediately!
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You know... I think I will!!
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sorry, i thought my point was fairly obvious, never mind, of course there should be "studies" in drug taking which has never been part of my world, i grew up in a more innocent and gentle age, thats not to say that i am not worldly wise BUT to involve riding( i abhor the phrase"horse riding") with the taking of drugs, or should i say the dangers of each, its an insult to the equestrian to compare the two, in my mind. of course riding can be dangerous, isnt any sport, rugby is now being "studied" as getting too dangerous, more nonsense,even cricket can be "dangerous" so why pick out riding for this so called comparison?? in my view, things have gone too sterile, too pc, too everything for times to be carefree like they used to be- thank god i'm the age i am and not a youngster cos we had a damned sight more fun then!!!
 
The usual 'culprit' for comparisons with some drugs is nicotine as it comes out far more addictive and harmful than some drugs.

I haven't seen the horse riding comparison anywhere other than academic papers before, but I suppose it works well because of the level of risk. I don't know much about rugby or football but they may well carry the same or greater level of risk.

In general in such discussions certain groups tend to be targeted (quite unfairly if one wanted to be consistent). In discussions about responsibility for health, all we hear is about obese people, drinkers and smokers...there is nothing about those who take part in dangerous sports or pregnant women!
 
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