How do I stand after Vetting ?

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I had a five stage vetting done and and the vet omitted to tell me that the horse was a clicker back legs , and that he has large lump the size of my thumb nail on his Sheath that maybe could be a sarcoid ?
After finding out history on horse found out he had both these things when they had him , horse bought from dealer neither points brought up later though the owners wife said click was his sheath ?
It is not and am woundering what I do about the vet omitting these from vetting , I am getting a second opinion a the moment . can anyone help ?
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My horse clicks in his back legs - it wasn't present at the vetting as he doesn't always do it.

Did you not observe the clicking yourself or the suspect sarcoid when you looked the horse??
 
i had a 2 stage vetting on my cob a couple of things were missed including the fact he had bad mud fever, lice and sallenders. i wrote s stroppy letter to the vets who wriggled out of it saying the pony was covered in mud? and he was uncontrollable and so couldnt look properly!
 
These things are not hard to miss the che vet licking and the lump on his Sheath . But I think it is not good enough after paying out that money for 5 stage vet check ?
I will pursue the vet legaly if it turns out to be a sarcoid as I will loose money when selling the horse , as I paid him to check for things I missed !
 
Surely they shouldnt miss a sarcoid that size anyway?
As for the clicking, my gelding does this, unless theres a vet around, then it stops! What Im saying is that its not always present. So reasonable that the vet wouldnt have spotted it.
 
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Surely they shouldnt miss a sarcoid that size anyway?

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Yes, quite possibly.

Just trying to clarify if the OP asked the vet to specifically look at these areas of concern - or if they did not notice them themselves. Also wondering if the seller volunteered the information on the lump on the sheeth.
 
The owner before me returned him to dealer to exchange I noticed in first few days the lump the clicking has always been there . had to wait six weeks to find history of horse to see if he had them before he came to me !
First owner know of them dealer should have told me vet should have shown it in his veting ?
 
I suppose at the end of the day it depends on how strongly you feel. Essentially your only gripe is the lump, as you knew about the clicking but did not ask for it to be investigated. If you do not want the horse now because of the possible implication of sarcoids then yes, I would be inclined to take it further.

Sarcoids are not really something that bother me - but I know they do some people.

If you haven't allready done so then I would ring the practice concerned and ask to go through the vet report in detail and ask them why these two things were omitted.

Ultimately though I'm not sure what you want them to do - other than apologise???
 
The vet check was going to be done and booked for a tuesday morning and my boyfriend drove the hour to the dealers for me to get a phone call to say he had done it the night before and not to think there was something dogy going on , his word s.
So I call my boyfriend who still goes as he is there o see horse but no vetting ?
 
Another thing occurs to me. Did you read the vet report prior to paying for and collecting the horse?

I only ask as my vet strongly recommended that I read his report and recommendations before I purchased my new horse. I chose not to, and took him home the same day of the vetting. I understand that to mean I accepted a verbal report only.
 
Dont know if I am being dopey today or it is because there appears to be words mixed up in some of your replies. I have gone through a similiar problem with a Vet & won my case.
First what was the purpose that the horse was being vetted for. ie: Hacking or competition & which discpline.?
Had you told the Vet you intended to be present at the Vetting?
Who recomended & found the Vet. The Vendor or yourself?
How old is the horse?
Did you intend to put him on Insurance cover?
Was a blood test taken?
 
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It was written and I read it went with verbal none of which covered said points

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Did you pick the horse up after reading it and accepting the verbal?

What vet did you use - independent of the dealers?
 
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The dealer found the vet yes I told them my partner was going to veiw it , and The horse is just for hacking schooling and showing

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So you didn't see the horse prior to purchase either???

Well, personally I wouldn't have bought the horse if the vetting had done without your knowledge on a day not agreed by you - without you present.

However, it appears that you accepted the horse based on the information given both verbally an in the report. A sarcoid is not a reason to fail a vetting - although yes it should have been noted.

I think the dealers probably saw you comming as someone with little or no horse buying experience.

But ultimately if you like the horse - I'd put it down to experience.

1. Always arrange your own vetting;
2. Always be present;
3. Don't buy it if your not 100% happy.
 
have you spoken to the vet who did this vetting and actually asked him if he noticed the lump. Are you just assuming it could potentially be a sarcoid. It could be some harmless and non productive lump which would in no way affect the horse in the future.

Did you tell the vet what you wanted the horse for...ie hacking and showing, this is the basis on which he would have vetted the animal.
 
Sorry I think this sounds very 'Iffy' Have you checked whether the dealer is already a client of the Vet that did the vetting?
You havent answered all my Q's so on that basis I can not honestly give you my opinion, however I dont believe there is any good reason for the Vet to omit clicking joints & sarcoids. I would be furious.
Clicking joints (usually hocks) are normally viewed as OK providing they stop clicking after a reasonable warm up period. If not, further investigations are required to diagnose correctly. As for Sarcoids, well straight off the sheath is one of the first areas to check. We all know they can be problematic & expensive to treat.
 
kinderhorse, where was this horse, whats it called, breed etc? sounds like one i lost a vetting fee on a while ago to be honest and the owners knew all about the lump on the sheath but didnt tell me. the vet didnt spot it but my oh did (thank god) then the vet was fabulous and researched old notes etc to find that the owner had known. we went to a equine solicitor to claim back charges (from owners not vet) but no luck. pm me if you want to tell me horses name etc, see if its same one, the more evidence you have the better. not sure how you stand with the vet, not sure any vetting covers checking the sheath etc.......good luck and dont despair.
 
This is a little known scam but one I have come across and know of others who have too.

Owner gets 'friend' vet to vet horse, fails, purchaser coughs up for the bill and walks away from the horse.

Are you absolutely certain the correct horse was vetted?

And I ask again...have you spoken to the vet?
 
The Horse is a dark bay/ black cob , 10 years home and is being reschooled at the moment .
As they did the vetting the night before when I was told it would be done on the tuesday morning , my boyfriend was not there so we went on the verbal of him saying it was really hard to find something wrong , because there was nothing wrong with him at vetting !
yet he missed thesre things?
 
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so we went on the verbal of him saying it was really hard to find something wrong , because there was nothing wrong with him at vetting !
yet he missed thesre things?

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So you discussed the horse with the vet after he had vetted it? Did you ask him about the clicking?

Yes the vet has a duty to you - but you did take the horse home, despite the vetting taking place without your boyfriend present - it would seem that you chose not to take this up with the practice, paid the money and took the horse home.

I know that others will really disagree with me - but I am fairly philosphical about these things. As a purchaser you also have a duty (to yourself) not to get hoodwinked.

Unless you are unhappy with the horse - as I said earlier, put it down to experience. It's not a mistake you'll make again.
 
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