elliegirl12
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when he first started walking out he was a bit worried abou the cars now is trying to chase them, does anyone know how you can stop it or is it just something they will get used to
how do you stop a puppy from trying to chase cars??
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FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
very boring advice, but take something to sit on, lunch, good book, dog and dogchew and sit down near a road and don't leave until your dog is also bored.
Greetings from Sweden.
Greetings from Sweden.
Maesfen
Extremely Old Nag!
Probably get shot down in flames for this but get a friend in their car with a passenger who's quick on their feet. Get them to drive past slowly and if dog tries to chase it, passenger must get out, run back shouting at it and be verbally threatening to the dog. Repeat as necessary. At the same time, you must grab it by the scruff of the neck and shake it hard once while telling it NO sharply. If you don't feel you can shake it, have a small whip with you and strike it across it's chest instead. Even if you don't have friend/passenger/car, be consistent whenever dog tries to chase vehicles. One day it might take after a child on a bike or even a pony; imagine the havoc that could cause; it really needs nipping in the bud else you could be in big trouble.
Foxyfilly
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Probably get shot down in flames for this but get a friend in their car with a passenger who's quick on their feet. Get them to drive past slowly and if dog tries to chase it, passenger must get out, run back shouting at it and be verbally threatening to the dog. Repeat as necessary. At the same time, you must grab it by the scruff of the neck and shake it hard once while telling it NO sharply. If you don't feel you can shake it, have a small whip with you and strike it across it's chest instead. Even if you don't have friend/passenger/car, be consistent whenever dog tries to chase vehicles. One day it might take after a child on a bike or even a pony; imagine the havoc that could cause; it really needs nipping in the bud else you could be in big trouble.
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Are you joking! I hope so
Get a halti, you'll have much better control.
Probably get shot down in flames for this but get a friend in their car with a passenger who's quick on their feet. Get them to drive past slowly and if dog tries to chase it, passenger must get out, run back shouting at it and be verbally threatening to the dog. Repeat as necessary. At the same time, you must grab it by the scruff of the neck and shake it hard once while telling it NO sharply. If you don't feel you can shake it, have a small whip with you and strike it across it's chest instead. Even if you don't have friend/passenger/car, be consistent whenever dog tries to chase vehicles. One day it might take after a child on a bike or even a pony; imagine the havoc that could cause; it really needs nipping in the bud else you could be in big trouble.
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Are you joking! I hope so
Get a halti, you'll have much better control.
CAYLA
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Hi
How old is your puppy and what breed?
How is his basic training coming on? heel work, sit, stay e,t,c?
What aids do u use to walk him? halti, choker, collar e,t,c?
Firstly if he has little basic commands and training then you need to work on these before tackling the traffic problem.
Chasing is a very strong instinct esp in certain breeds, it is best to start with some basic teaching him to leave commands with toys or retrieval objects within your own garden with little distraction, you could also introduce some treats as reward and clicker to assosiate with the reward...this will aid you in controlling him in the car situation.
Get his heel work to perfection to aid you to control him in any situation.
You could choose to use reward based training...which works well if he is strongly toy/treat orientated...i.e using these as an offering to keep his mind of the negative distraction i.e the car.
Make sure you have good control by way of walking aid i.e collar, halti, half check chain and stay calm yourself....ALWAYS, tire him out before tackling the traffic to get rid of some of that energy....with an extended walk/run.
Have your treats/toy ready and hold it in your left hand close to your body just out of his reach, whilst holding dog to heal in your right hand, allow him to mouth treat/toy but do not allow him to take it, this will keep his focus, only allow him to take it when the negative object(car) is passing...this is his reward for ignoring the car. use treats you would otherwise never use...a luxury like chicken or cheese, if you choose to use the clicker during training periods then click as you treat, this way you can evenually decrease the treats and click for his attention instead.
Walk quickly and do not stop, even if he begins to loose focus give him a sharp tug on leash and show him you mean business and use your heel training to get him close to heel.
This type of exercise is keeping him distracted by way of positive reward and at the same time getting him used to the cars, keep up the heel work at all times by putting aside 10 mins of the day to work o it.
If you are struggling to keep his attention by way of reward, i.e if his chase instinct proves to strong,then using a negative assosiation training aid such as a spray bottle/rattle bottle or spray collar will help also....this way he still will not assosiate you with the reprimand.....again keep good control of him and get him to heel...at the time the car passed when he lunges throw the rattle bottle full of stones down infront of him,or car passanger if this helps you in keeping control of him... if you choose spray bottle or pistol then squirt him at the time of lunge/attempted chase and give him a command.i.e leave, this way you can then gradually just use the leave command to reinforce him ignoring the car....if he immediately looks to you for support/fear then treat him for focusing on you and walk on holding him to heel, same with spray collar.
At a young age you need to be carefull that u don't scare him off cars completly to the point that he will not even get in one.
REWARD YOURSELF FOR READING THIS
How old is your puppy and what breed?
How is his basic training coming on? heel work, sit, stay e,t,c?
What aids do u use to walk him? halti, choker, collar e,t,c?
Firstly if he has little basic commands and training then you need to work on these before tackling the traffic problem.
Chasing is a very strong instinct esp in certain breeds, it is best to start with some basic teaching him to leave commands with toys or retrieval objects within your own garden with little distraction, you could also introduce some treats as reward and clicker to assosiate with the reward...this will aid you in controlling him in the car situation.
Get his heel work to perfection to aid you to control him in any situation.
You could choose to use reward based training...which works well if he is strongly toy/treat orientated...i.e using these as an offering to keep his mind of the negative distraction i.e the car.
Make sure you have good control by way of walking aid i.e collar, halti, half check chain and stay calm yourself....ALWAYS, tire him out before tackling the traffic to get rid of some of that energy....with an extended walk/run.
Have your treats/toy ready and hold it in your left hand close to your body just out of his reach, whilst holding dog to heal in your right hand, allow him to mouth treat/toy but do not allow him to take it, this will keep his focus, only allow him to take it when the negative object(car) is passing...this is his reward for ignoring the car. use treats you would otherwise never use...a luxury like chicken or cheese, if you choose to use the clicker during training periods then click as you treat, this way you can evenually decrease the treats and click for his attention instead.
Walk quickly and do not stop, even if he begins to loose focus give him a sharp tug on leash and show him you mean business and use your heel training to get him close to heel.
This type of exercise is keeping him distracted by way of positive reward and at the same time getting him used to the cars, keep up the heel work at all times by putting aside 10 mins of the day to work o it.
If you are struggling to keep his attention by way of reward, i.e if his chase instinct proves to strong,then using a negative assosiation training aid such as a spray bottle/rattle bottle or spray collar will help also....this way he still will not assosiate you with the reprimand.....again keep good control of him and get him to heel...at the time the car passed when he lunges throw the rattle bottle full of stones down infront of him,or car passanger if this helps you in keeping control of him... if you choose spray bottle or pistol then squirt him at the time of lunge/attempted chase and give him a command.i.e leave, this way you can then gradually just use the leave command to reinforce him ignoring the car....if he immediately looks to you for support/fear then treat him for focusing on you and walk on holding him to heel, same with spray collar.
At a young age you need to be carefull that u don't scare him off cars completly to the point that he will not even get in one.
REWARD YOURSELF FOR READING THIS
CAYLA
Well-Known Member
Agree with Acolyte...this is enough to scar him for life...and he will only assosiate this with you and won't have a clue what he has done
and what passersby with think I don't know
Maesfen
Extremely Old Nag!
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Probably get shot down in flames for this but get a friend in their car with a passenger who's quick on their feet. Get them to drive past slowly and if dog tries to chase it, passenger must get out, run back shouting at it and be verbally threatening to the dog. Repeat as necessary. At the same time, you must grab it by the scruff of the neck and shake it hard once while telling it NO sharply. If you don't feel you can shake it, have a small whip with you and strike it across it's chest instead. Even if you don't have friend/passenger/car, be consistent whenever dog tries to chase vehicles. One day it might take after a child on a bike or even a pony; imagine the havoc that could cause; it really needs nipping in the bud else you could be in big trouble.
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Are you joking! I hope so
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Certainly not! I don't let my animals call the shots, they are well loved and looked after but they have to learn manners.
By the passenger from the car coming out and chastising the dog, dog won't associate owner with the telling off but it gets the point across that chasing cars is wrong and dangerous, not to be allowed. What is to object about that?
Imagine if you will this habit hasn't been cured (by any means, not just your way or my way) and dog gets loose and chases a vehicle or a cyclist; think of the carnage it could cause, not just to itself but to innocent people too. Look at the big picture, this is a dangerous habit which must be stopped, no point in pussy footing about with it.
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Probably get shot down in flames for this but get a friend in their car with a passenger who's quick on their feet. Get them to drive past slowly and if dog tries to chase it, passenger must get out, run back shouting at it and be verbally threatening to the dog. Repeat as necessary. At the same time, you must grab it by the scruff of the neck and shake it hard once while telling it NO sharply. If you don't feel you can shake it, have a small whip with you and strike it across it's chest instead. Even if you don't have friend/passenger/car, be consistent whenever dog tries to chase vehicles. One day it might take after a child on a bike or even a pony; imagine the havoc that could cause; it really needs nipping in the bud else you could be in big trouble.
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Are you joking! I hope so
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Certainly not! I don't let my animals call the shots, they are well loved and looked after but they have to learn manners.
By the passenger from the car coming out and chastising the dog, dog won't associate owner with the telling off but it gets the point across that chasing cars is wrong and dangerous, not to be allowed. What is to object about that?
Imagine if you will this habit hasn't been cured (by any means, not just your way or my way) and dog gets loose and chases a vehicle or a cyclist; think of the carnage it could cause, not just to itself but to innocent people too. Look at the big picture, this is a dangerous habit which must be stopped, no point in pussy footing about with it.
Oneofthepack
Well-Known Member
As it's almost certainly a fear thing I wouldn't screw him up even more by making him truly terrified as in strangers leaping out of passing cars and attacking him! Follow CALAs advice if I was you or just do the other thing and take him somewhere, sit him down by your side, take a book and just sit for as long as you can spare as often as you can.
It's what I did when my rescue lurcher started going for children
We went and sat by the school gates and I asked everyone to walk past and ignore him. Gradually I asked them to stop and let him sniff hands and later to pet him. Within a few weeks he was cured.
Sorry but can you imagine how totally mental he would be by now if I asked the children to come out and shout at him then hit him across the chest with a whip.
It's what I did when my rescue lurcher started going for children
Sorry but can you imagine how totally mental he would be by now if I asked the children to come out and shout at him then hit him across the chest with a whip.
elliegirl12
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Hi
How old is your puppy and what breed?
How is his basic training coming on? heel work, sit, stay e,t,c?
What aids do u use to walk him? halti, choker, collar e,t,c?
Firstly if he has little basic commands and training then you need to work on these before tackling the traffic problem.
Chasing is a very strong instinct esp in certain breeds, it is best to start with some basic teaching him to leave commands with toys or retrieval objects within your own garden with little distraction, you could also introduce some treats as reward and clicker to assosiate with the reward...this will aid you in controlling him in the car situation.
Get his heel work to perfection to aid you to control him in any situation.
You could choose to use reward based training...which works well if he is strongly toy/treat orientated...i.e using these as an offering to keep his mind of the negative distraction i.e the car.
Make sure you have good control by way of walking aid i.e collar, halti, half check chain and stay calm yourself....ALWAYS, tire him out before tackling the traffic to get rid of some of that energy....with an extended walk/run.
Have your treats/toy ready and hold it in your left hand close to your body just out of his reach, whilst holding dog to heal in your right hand, allow him to mouth treat/toy but do not allow him to take it, this will keep his focus, only allow him to take it when the negative object(car) is passing...this is his reward for ignoring the car. use treats you would otherwise never use...a luxury like chicken or cheese, if you choose to use the clicker during training periods then click as you treat, this way you can evenually decrease the treats and click for his attention instead.
Walk quickly and do not stop, even if he begins to loose focus give him a sharp tug on leash and show him you mean business and use your heel training to get him close to heel.
This type of exercise is keeping him distracted by way of positive reward and at the same time getting him used to the cars, keep up the heel work at all times by putting aside 10 mins of the day to work o it.
If you are struggling to keep his attention by way of reward, i.e if his chase instinct proves to strong,then using a negative assosiation training aid such as a spray bottle/rattle bottle or spray collar will help also....this way he still will not assosiate you with the reprimand.....again keep good control of him and get him to heel...at the time the car passed when he lunges throw the rattle bottle full of stones down infront of him,or car passanger if this helps you in keeping control of him... if you choose spray bottle or pistol then squirt him at the time of lunge/attempted chase and give him a command.i.e leave, this way you can then gradually just use the leave command to reinforce him ignoring the car....if he immediately looks to you for support/fear then treat him for focusing on you and walk on holding him to heel, same with spray collar.
At a young age you need to be carefull that u don't scare him off cars completly to the point that he will not even get in one.
REWARD YOURSELF FOR READING THIS
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hiya and thanks for this, he is a blue merle border collie so is certaily and chasing breed, he is getting the basics alrady at 12 1/2 weeks old meaning sit down heel on the lead and soo on... he is okay at going in a car but i certaily wnt be scaring him even more especially being a border collie as they are extremly sensitive, he is also in a coller we dont wont to put to much on him only being young he walks nicely on the lead but when a car come by he will try to run and pull but you can easily tell him no and we are also tring to say leave it while he is doing this. so i will try the distraction method next time
thanks
Hi
How old is your puppy and what breed?
How is his basic training coming on? heel work, sit, stay e,t,c?
What aids do u use to walk him? halti, choker, collar e,t,c?
Firstly if he has little basic commands and training then you need to work on these before tackling the traffic problem.
Chasing is a very strong instinct esp in certain breeds, it is best to start with some basic teaching him to leave commands with toys or retrieval objects within your own garden with little distraction, you could also introduce some treats as reward and clicker to assosiate with the reward...this will aid you in controlling him in the car situation.
Get his heel work to perfection to aid you to control him in any situation.
You could choose to use reward based training...which works well if he is strongly toy/treat orientated...i.e using these as an offering to keep his mind of the negative distraction i.e the car.
Make sure you have good control by way of walking aid i.e collar, halti, half check chain and stay calm yourself....ALWAYS, tire him out before tackling the traffic to get rid of some of that energy....with an extended walk/run.
Have your treats/toy ready and hold it in your left hand close to your body just out of his reach, whilst holding dog to heal in your right hand, allow him to mouth treat/toy but do not allow him to take it, this will keep his focus, only allow him to take it when the negative object(car) is passing...this is his reward for ignoring the car. use treats you would otherwise never use...a luxury like chicken or cheese, if you choose to use the clicker during training periods then click as you treat, this way you can evenually decrease the treats and click for his attention instead.
Walk quickly and do not stop, even if he begins to loose focus give him a sharp tug on leash and show him you mean business and use your heel training to get him close to heel.
This type of exercise is keeping him distracted by way of positive reward and at the same time getting him used to the cars, keep up the heel work at all times by putting aside 10 mins of the day to work o it.
If you are struggling to keep his attention by way of reward, i.e if his chase instinct proves to strong,then using a negative assosiation training aid such as a spray bottle/rattle bottle or spray collar will help also....this way he still will not assosiate you with the reprimand.....again keep good control of him and get him to heel...at the time the car passed when he lunges throw the rattle bottle full of stones down infront of him,or car passanger if this helps you in keeping control of him... if you choose spray bottle or pistol then squirt him at the time of lunge/attempted chase and give him a command.i.e leave, this way you can then gradually just use the leave command to reinforce him ignoring the car....if he immediately looks to you for support/fear then treat him for focusing on you and walk on holding him to heel, same with spray collar.
At a young age you need to be carefull that u don't scare him off cars completly to the point that he will not even get in one.
REWARD YOURSELF FOR READING THIS
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hiya and thanks for this, he is a blue merle border collie so is certaily and chasing breed, he is getting the basics alrady at 12 1/2 weeks old meaning sit down heel on the lead and soo on... he is okay at going in a car but i certaily wnt be scaring him even more especially being a border collie as they are extremly sensitive, he is also in a coller we dont wont to put to much on him only being young he walks nicely on the lead but when a car come by he will try to run and pull but you can easily tell him no and we are also tring to say leave it while he is doing this. so i will try the distraction method next time
maxweg
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please don't do any thing to scare him i.e people jumping out of cars!
We have 3 borders, one does working trials and the other two I breed show I have had this breed for years and I have also bred a couple of litters.It is in their nature so it's not something to punish him for.
Plenty leaded walks in streets, try to ignore the negative behaviour and praise him when he focus's on you. It will in time settle but the more fuss you make, the worse he will get.
I meet a woman each day who continually strokes and fusses her dog when we pass, she tells me it's frightened of other dogs, all she is doing is re-enforcing to her dog that there is a problem with other dogs
You always have to be aware of the chase drive and be in control but he is still a baby trying to do what he was bred for and it will in time settle.If it gets really bad then try distraction tactics i.e a toy or a little treat that will certainly get him to think about you and what you might have for him but try to ENJOY this fab breed
We have 3 borders, one does working trials and the other two I breed show I have had this breed for years and I have also bred a couple of litters.It is in their nature so it's not something to punish him for.
Plenty leaded walks in streets, try to ignore the negative behaviour and praise him when he focus's on you. It will in time settle but the more fuss you make, the worse he will get.
I meet a woman each day who continually strokes and fusses her dog when we pass, she tells me it's frightened of other dogs, all she is doing is re-enforcing to her dog that there is a problem with other dogs
You always have to be aware of the chase drive and be in control but he is still a baby trying to do what he was bred for and it will in time settle.If it gets really bad then try distraction tactics i.e a toy or a little treat that will certainly get him to think about you and what you might have for him but try to ENJOY this fab breed
Elle123
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I worked for a dog behavourist for quite a while and we had a number of collies with this problem. do not scar this dog for life by following the advise of that person who obviously know nothing about dog behaviour. This is the collies natural instinct to herd and you should not punish the poor doggies for this. like others have said. time and patience. mabye use some titbits. so as the car come past get the doggies attention with the treat. as the car goes past and if there is no reaction to the car. give the treat. mabye also look into getting a good acredited dog behavourist in. I would also recommend a gentle leader for extra control. above all remain calm.
hope it helps
Luv Elle
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hope it helps
Luv Elle
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elliegirl12
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no i know i certainl wont be doing wot tht woman said i wld neva be that evil to any of my pets!
but thanks to everyone else!
but thanks to everyone else!
Oneofthepack
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no i know i certainl wont be doing wot tht woman said i wld neva be that evil to any of my pets!
but thanks to everyone else!
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Don't think she meant to be evil, just maybe hadn't given what she wrote enough thought.
no i know i certainl wont be doing wot tht woman said i wld neva be that evil to any of my pets!
but thanks to everyone else!
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Don't think she meant to be evil, just maybe hadn't given what she wrote enough thought.