How long do you think it would take to sort out a horse with bad manne

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I ask because our liveries horses are a bit ill mannered, one in particular dragged our livery over and trampled her at the weekend, she is ok thankfully but quite bruised. This happened because she was holding one of the horses so it could watch the other one whilst the other one was being ridden.

These are the two horses that go everywhere and do everything together because liveries are not brave enough to separate them it seems.

One of them is getting the better of one of our liveries (A) at the moment, A asked me to get on him on Friday as he was misbehaving with A. Running backwards and threatening to rear and spinning his bum round. A sharp smack and a boot from me when he tried it on twice and he just got on with it and didn't bother trying again after that.

This is the same one that trampled A on Sunday. So don't think A will be riding him for a while.... B and i might offer to do this horse for a week or two see if we can sort out his manners and get him to behave properly, currently both horses are lead to and from the field in bridles because they won't lead nicely for their owners.

Now, we would immediately make sure the horses weren't doing everything together as i think this is adding to their bad manners really....?

A is talking about selling him and i think this would be a shame really as he is a nice horse for her but just seems to have picked up a few bad habits at the moment and is trying it on. So would like to be able to get them back to how they were a few months ago!

If we were to sort this horse out and A to go back to riding him etc do you think he would stay reasonably mannered or do you think he would go back to taking the P like he is at the moment with them?
 
Unless they carried on with what you had started and remained firm and consistant with the horse then he will undoubtably go back to being bad mannered.
 
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Unless they carried on with what you had started and remained firm and consistant with the horse then he will undoubtably go back to being bad mannered.

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This is my fear
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they are very soft with their horses though. Let them get away with too much.
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They are riding one of ours at the moment and we have warned them she has been known to kick in the past and yet they still walk behind her and lead horses past her when she is eating with a blase she won't kick attitude, only a matter of time till she boots one of them and we have warned them
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Firm from day one, they learn but as soon as they misbehave you have to correct them.Cant stand wussy people with horses-its an accident waiting to happen!
 
To answer the original question, it depends on the horse. I sorted one horse I know very quickly (2 weeks) on the leading front by tugging sharply down on the leadrope (with a headcoller) several times when the horse barged in front or over of me (you can do it in a bridle too) and very quickly he stopped messing about as all I had to do it the end was tug lightly on the leadrope if he forgot and he would behave perfectly.

But at the same time it has taken my friend 4 years to get her horse to learn manners (not just have him reminded of them, he had none to begin with) both on the ground and riding, though now he is perfect.

I hope he is a quick one and maybe you could give his owner a couple of lessons on dealing with him once you have sorted him out. Good luck
 
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