How much do you think she is asking for this horse???

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Hey guys,

Whilst browsing casually, I came across this horse:

http://www.horsequest.co.uk/2/horse...rses/178/event-horses-intermediate-/-advanced

It is the third one down, called 'Identity Crisis'. I am intregued as to what you lovely lot think... Sounds like it has a few issues.

p.s, just to clarify, this is NOT my horse (damn it, if I had a Novice eventer it definatleyh wouldnt be on horse quest!) and this is NOT an advert.
 
I would ask for a print out of his vet records, get a 5* vetting and have a 2nd opinion from my physio!

Then I'd think about how much he was worth...
 
Of course! Not really interested in it for me (too busy playing with youngsters and that little thing called 'vet-school' which takes up all of my time! ) but purely interested as to what you think she has in mind!
 
I was nosey and looked at his record - she has done a lot with him and he is incredibly inconsistent - either clear or eliminated - no wonder she is at her wits end! I wondered if dropping him down to PN would help but I can see how annoying it must be - on a good day he gets points and the next time, E's.. poor lady..
 
Yeah really honest advert, I think it's really good! As for the horse, it's a tricky one but maybe £2k ish? I might be way out but maybe for a really experienced rider that doesn't mind cold backed and fune tuning it wouldn't be a problem and he sounds really good in other respects
 
Why don't you ring the owner, have a chat about him and ask what she is looking for. You can always come back to her afterwards with an offer if you feel you want to go for him. Although talented, he does sound quirky and that is not going to help with his sale price. Personally, I would go and look with someone experienced (your instructor?), decide whether he is for you, then go away, discuss and make an offer. She sounds as if she wants shot of him!
 
hmm, see i would have said 5k - horse is cold backed and sensitive, which can be worked around :)

But if cold backed for so long then I would be getting an x ray of back to see if any spinal changes :)
 
The first thing I thought was if she had had him since he was four, what has made him cold backed. I am of the opinion there must be a reason behind it.

To me he looks like a bargain - He is obviously talented, however, there must be a reason for his inconsistency, which might be improved with change of rider/tactic. Some horses just do not cope well with pressure.
 
only_me said:
hmm, see i would have said 5k - horse is cold backed and sensitive, which can be worked around :)
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If he was cold-backed BUT reasonably consistent in his results, then I would agree with you. But he is very cold-backed AND very inconsistent which surely must bring his value down, particularly the combination of those two factors makes it quite likely there is a physical problem there.

In his last five runs he has been eliminated three times and withdrawn from the jumping phases once. Even when he has gone clear at Novice his dressage hasn't been good enough to get into the higher placings. So quite a gamble for someone to take on - perhaps the current rider hasn't found the key to the horse, but on the other hand perhaps there is a physical problem that on the one hand could be sorted, but on the other could be untreatable and progressive.
 
God I haven't a clue.
I would need to see and feel the horse under saddle, watch the current rider on him and have a very good vetting done.

That horse has run in a lot of events, and I would imagine that if it was really broken then it would have properly jacked it in, however it is still sj'ing.

My first impression is that the horse is probably not talented enough for a pro to want it, yet maybe too quirky for a RC amateur type. Therefore would probably be suitable for either a capable amateur on a very tight budget willing to take a punt, or it would need to change direction and be sold to do something else.

I haven't a clue on price, anything from 1K - 6K dependant on a variety of factors.
 
I think if he was mine I'd be getting him hunting and selling him that way. A cold backed but otherwise good hunter is going to be worth more and easier to sell than an inconsistent and tricky competition horse.
 
kayleighn said:
Sorry for my stupidity but what do you mean by cold backed?? It's not something I've come across before
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Cold backed is when a horse reacts unfavourably to the saddle being put on and the girth tightened. They might buck, crab sideways, refuse or be reluctant to go forward etc., when they are first mounted (if sufficient preparation is not taken), but then revert to normal behaviour when the jockey has been on a while. Usual ways to deal with it are to do the girth up bit by bit, leave the horse saddled for a while before mounting, lunge or trot the horse up in hand with the saddle on before mounting etc.
 
his record looks very simular to my chaps!! :p either eliminated xc or clear... http://www.britisheventing.com/asp-net/Events/Results.aspx?HorseId=78062

I think youd have to have him completely vetted, then go and see him, ride him.. and put him through his paces. My chap, just is a bit attitudy, and if theres something he doesnt like XC, theres nothing you can do about it, and may aswel give up there and then! He could be simular... My chap is now SJing and loveing it, and will defianlty go fox, so i think youd just have to consider what youd want to do with him, and if it was event, weather your have the time patience and money to put into a horse thas that in consistant (obviously only if completely okay physically)
 
Thats the 3rd Colin Diamond horse I've now heard of with significant physical problems. I dont know if this is just co-incidence?
 
1 with PSD, and the other with crippling feet problems, but to be fair both horses are fixed and competing now thanks to very caring new owners.
 
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