How much to reduce price by for a sarcoid?

[Sandstone1]

Is he still covered by insurance for sarcoids? If so I would have it removed again.

 

[Bluewaves]

Even if it isn't a place that doesn't gets rubbed, there's the potential for it to grow and get worse in the summer when the flies start biting. It's a real shame the laser didn't work for you.

 

[irishdraft]

I would just advertise with disclosure and see what happens, Connie's are popular. Lots of people aren't bothered with sarcoids, my retired horse has had sarcoids around his sheath for his whole life, yes it's a pain banding them every couple of years but other than that they haven't been a problem. It's a gamble that some people will take & others won't ime.

 

[pixie27]

I wouldn’t reduce by much. I think sarcoids are a bit like marmite - people either don’t care or will avoid. I bought mine after having him on loan, while he was going through (what was essentially) chemo for one of his. With the right management and treatment, they’ve never come back - and he had 4, including in awkward places. I probably underpaid for him, but more because he wasn’t originally for sale! Wouldn’t put me off in the future either.

Your idea to loan and then sell might be a good path to explore. Pony gets some more experience and you can monitor the sarcoid.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

14.3 connie gelding 5 year old, done a little bit of everything. Selling in a few weeks time. Sarcoid on underside of neck/jaw/throatlash. Had it lasered off but it's grown back again. How much would you reduce the sale price to reflect this?

My mare developed a few sarcoids- all were treated, the face one was not easy but its gone so now she is sarcoid free.

 

[motherof2beasts!]

What colour is he ? I had a pony with a couple of sarcoids which never escalated into anything of concern. However If grey I’d be more worried. I would fully disclose it and depending on how much you were hoping for knock £1000 ish off.

Be really careful with loaning unless he stays with you so yoyr around to keep an eye or they come with references.

 

[Marigold4]

Is he still covered by insurance for sarcoids? If so I would have it removed again.

Yes, he is still insured. I guess I could have it done quickly before the flies arrive?

 

[Marigold4]

What colour is he ? I had a pony with a couple of sarcoids which never escalated into anything of concern. However If grey I’d be more worried. I would fully disclose it and depending on how much you were hoping for knock £1000 ish off.

Be really careful with loaning unless he stays with you so yoyr around to keep an eye or they come with references.

He is grey. A couple of people on here have mentioned grey is more of a worry. I knew that they are prone to melanomas but do sarcoids occur more frequently in greys as well??

 

[Marigold4]

What about getting the sarcoid lasered off again, maybe this time with a greater margin removed?

I've just looked back at your old posts about the sarcoid as I remember them, and I think I posted on them. It's grown back in just 4 months. That would be a real gamble for any purchaser.

I'll contact the vet and insurance company and see about getting it lasered off again. It's disappointing that it is back again so soon.

 

[Marigold4]

I think if he were older with a proven competition record, it wouldn’t effect his price that much…esp if only one and not near anything important. Could you keep him longer and do more with him?

Latest I can keep him is until September so could get him out and about to competitions in the meantime

 

[Marigold4]

My mare had several sarcoids at 5 yrs old, had them frozen off and have never had one again. (she is 26 now!) If its a nice pony why don't you have it taken off by another method and keep him/her. Liverpool cream can be really fierce, the freezing was quite simple and painless afterwards.

I'll talk to vet about other options.

 

[Marigold4]

I have had several sarcoids removed from horses and always feed Sarcex afterwards in the, possibly vain, hope that this will boost the natural immune system. Not had one regrow but no idea if the Sarcex helps but for sure I will not stop feeding it!!

I did try Sarcex when I first discovered it but no luck unfortunately

 

[Ceifer]

Personally I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole. Especially as it’s grown back but if the horse is a genuine all rounder with no quirks I would still advertise at market value.

I have mentioned this before but I used to know a competition horse that was sold by an extremely well known top class rider for well over 30k that had 38 sarcoids. It was covered, tack area, between its back legs, face. The rider just put sheepskin on tack that was rubbing and carried on.
As it was the horse was sold on again for less but still a lot more than I would have paid as it wasn’t going to make the grade. In a less competitive home (although it still did a bit) seemed to render the sarcoids less problematic.

 

[SpotsandBays]

I wouldn’t want a grey personally (melanomas scare me! Although my first pony who is still with me today is in her mid 30s and hasn’t had an issue!).
I do have a (non grey) sarcoid horse though, and have had a lot of success with using the “Sarcoid Cure” from the Facebook group. Feeding to boost the immunity can also help prevent further ones from growing

 

[Ample Prosecco]

Dolly was a cracking Connie. Grey. With a sarcoid. I was inundated with offers for her. So plenty don’t mind. I knocked about 20% off the price I think was realistic for her.

 

[Marigold4]

Are greys more likely to get sarcoids?? I knew they were more prone to melanoma but didn't think sarcoids were a particularly grey thing. Or maybe people are confusing melanoma with sarcoids?

 

[TheMule]

Are greys more likely to get sarcoids?? I knew they were more prone to melanoma but didn't think sarcoids were a particularly grey thing. Or maybe people are confusing melanoma with sarcoids?

They aren’t, but some insurance companies will exclude melanomas if a horse has a history of sarcoidosis as they lump them in as 'skin conditions' or similar

 

[Tiddlypom]

Yes, he is still insured. I guess I could have it done quickly before the flies arrive?

As he's insured, I'd defo get it removed again. Despite the current wintery weather it's not long til the fly season starts again .

Maybe your vets will try another procedure seeing as it has recurred so quickly after lasering?

Even those people who reckon that sarcoids don't bother them would be concerned about a rapidly recurring sarcoid, and if they aren't then they ought to be.

 

[irishdraft]

Out of the 4 greys I've owned or still own, 3 of them had/have very small melanoma under the tail but no sarcoids. The grey with sarcoids has no melanomas.

 

[motherof2beasts!]

What he like nature/riding wise? Send me a Message.

 

[J&S]

The sarcoids on my pony were on the white areas under her tummy (originally found when clipping for the first time). She had a foal who was bay, no white at all, she developed a sarcoid under her elbow that was banded and never, ever produced another. I had a local vet treat them who was also a Homeopathic practitioner and he made her up granules (the skewbald) which i gave her over a couple of years, gradually decreasing. He said that sarcoids needed to be treated Miasmically, so he took into consideration her temperament, habits , anything that made up her nature. The Liverpool vet, famous for treating sarcoids, would say this was not possible but it happened for us.
do you have a homeopathic vet locally?

 

[Marigold4]

Vet coming next week to discuss what we can do next. He is insured for more treatment so we could try again. Don't really want to cut holes in him again though. Poor chap.

 

[Kaylum]

My friend had on with sarcoids come onto her yard. Her horse who had never had them before got one. The thought was that flies had spread them hence some yard owners and horse owners might not be too happy to offer you livery.

 

[Wizpop]

I have had several sarcoids removed from horses and always feed Sarcex afterwards in the, possibly vain, hope that this will boost the natural immune system. Not had one regrow but no idea if the Sarcex helps but for sure I will not stop feeding it!!

I have seen the amazing affects of Sarcex on a friend’s horse, so it is definitely effective, although might not be for all horses/sarcoids. I would say it’s always worth. Try!

 

[sport horse]

I did try Sarcex when I first discovered it but no luck unfortunately
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I used it once the sarcoids had been removed by laser and kept the horses on it permanently.

 

[Goldenstar]

2.5 k off the price and I would have to love the horse

 

[Tiddlypom]

My friend had on with sarcoids come onto her yard. Her horse who had never had them before got one. The thought was that flies had spread them hence some yard owners and horse owners might not be too happy to offer you livery.

Indeed. My vet has told me to ensure that my sarcoid prone homebred strictly has her own stable, rugs, grooming kit. Sarcoids can be spread to other susceptible horses.

Since correcting her hind gut imbalance by following the post Equibiome test protocol her existing sarcoids have calmed down a lot and she hasn't grown new ones. At
one point I thought that they would be the end of her.

ETA Previously she'd been on Sarc ex for maybe a couple of years, but it didn't help her, she still kept sprouting new sarcoids.

 

[ycbm]

2k. I had a sarcoid removed from my cob several years ago it cost £900, Liverpool cream. Didn't grow back but two small ones appeared elsewhere and verucca ointment shifted them. If the horse fits the bill I d buy it and get vet to use Liverpool cream ( which is radioactive) to remove it.

Liverpool cream isn't radioactive. It contains human skin cancer treatment fluorouracil 5 so is treated with caution and normally applied by a vet, but it's not radioactive.

 

[ycbm]

The Liverpool vet, famous for treating sarcoids, would say this - a cure after homeopathy (my edit) - was not possible but it happened for us.
do you have a homeopathic vet locally?

Prof Knottenbelt would not say it was not possible. But he would say that the reason people think it works is because sarcoids often resolve themselves, so from time to time that will coincide with a horse who is being treated with homeopathy.

There isn't one shred of evidence, sadly, that homeopathy of any kind works as any more than a placebo in horses and additionally as a talking therapy in humans.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

A vet told me once it's often to do with the immune system and every time Arabi has had one surface its been linked to lameness or something else going wrong with him.

I just left his and they all went on there own but i put him on a good multi vitamin supplement and apparently aloe vera can help with the immune system as well.