How much to reduce price by for a sarcoid?

[Goldenstar]

A vet told me once it's often to do with the immune system and every time Arabi has had one surface its been linked to lameness or something else going wrong with him.

I just left his and they all went on there own but i put him on a good multi vitamin supplement and apparently aloe vera can help with the immune system as well.

This is exactly it that’s why they often appear on a change of home .
Stress causes them to flair up, in this respect they are like cold sores in people .
Fatty arrived with sarcoids very unwell fat and not not very happy for three years we had treated sarcoids as we got on top of his health issues discovered how he liked to live ,they stopped appearing we have had over a decade sarcoid free now .

I know when I buy a horse with them I might be buying an expensive heartbreaking nightmare but then even the nicest horse with the cleanest slate at vetting can be a expensive heartbreaking nightmare .

 

[maya2008]

In terms of whether they are infectious - most horses are infected with the bovine papilloma virus that causes sarcoids by the time they are adults. Whether that virus manifests as sarcoids (or, they are starting to think, as canker) is related to the immune system of the individual horse - and that is something you cannot catch. My old NF had canker appear aged 6. No one else on the yard had canker or sarcoids. We beat it, and years later she had a sarcoid pop up. Left it alone and it did its thing quietly and without causing issue. Then the canker came back in her late teens and she couldn’t beat it. Her best friend lived with her all that time, not a sarcoid in sight. Other ponies too, again no issue.

A friend’s horse had a bad accident last year and popped up two huge sarcoids as a result of the considerable stress that caused her. All healed now and sarcoids gone after treatment - she’s happy, out of pain and her immune system is doing a better job.

 

[Frano]

There are several different types of sarcoidosis. Perhaps talk to him he vet. If it grew back quickly I would be concerned.

 

[Marigold4]

There are several different types of sarcoidosis. Perhaps talk to him he vet. If it grew back quickly I would be concerned.

Vet coming next week. The sarcoid was sent to the lab so we know what it is. I think it grew back because they didn't take enough margin.

 

[J&S]

so from time to time that will coincide with a horse who is being treated with homeopathy.

The first treat ment was simply Thuja pills. Several small button like sarcoids fell of within a week. One larger one persisted through into the summer and that was frozen off. as I said, none returned. so we were the lucky ones.

I would like to add: my step daughter is a vet, she trained at Liverpool and obviously knew Knottenbelt. Although this was her PC pony in her youth and she saw the treatments and knew what happened she is totally sceptical that it was homeopathy that cured her!!! I am not totally naive.

 

[rara007]

I knocked 25% of Market value and disclosure before viewing 14 months ago on my mare with an undiagnosed skin lump. Sold v quickly to first viewer.

 

[RachelFerd]

I offered £500 less for a horse I wanted to buy that had a sarcoid. When a trainer told me how much he thought the horse was worth (£25k+) a couple of years later, I said "ah, probably not because he has a sarcoid" - and he said that most serious professionals couldn't care less about that given that the horse is proper competition horse and the sarcoid is small and in an out of the way place.

 

[Red-1]

I liked a horse with a trainer I knew, it was a successful horse to the level I wanted already. When I called, she told me it had a sarcoid. I was disappointed, but could have been tempted, but at half the advertised price. The reason being that they were part way through treatment. No guarantee that treatment would work and the horse was being a bit of a thug about it, understandably.

The seller wasn't interested in such a price drop and I subsequently bought another. But, they later called back so I'm guessing that, despite the horse being impeccably schooled and gorgeous, buyers were scarce. Obviously, I was no longer in the market. I did see the horse went on with another owner for a season or two, before dropping off the records. I don't know what they paid though.

I think there is a difference in one that is already performing at the level you want with one and one that is unproven with one. I'm not sure how you would market yours, but I think, if it is a nice horse, you could simply advertise now and see what happened. You may get a quick sale. If not, you could look at alternatives. If it were me, I think I would treat again first, then advertise.

 

[Goldenstar]

I offered £500 less for a horse I wanted to buy that had a sarcoid. When a trainer told me how much he thought the horse was worth (£25k+) a couple of years later, I said "ah, probably not because he has a sarcoid" - and he said that most serious professionals couldn't care less about that given that the horse is proper competition horse and the sarcoid is small and in an out of the way place.

Professionals can afford not to care their approach to risk is completely different to people who are emotionally and financially invested in one horse .

 

[RachelFerd]

Professionals can afford not to care their approach to risk is completely different to people who are emotionally and financially invested in one horse .

Well, yes, absolutely. I thought it was interesting that it wouldn't have made him think twice about the price. And it's a choice I'd make again without hesitation - horses can go spectacularly wrong for any reason - visible or invisible.

 

[Goldenstar]

Of horses go wrong and I do buy horses with sarcoids but not all horses with sarcoids its a judgment I take on that horse being bought for that job .

 

[Marigold4]

This is a really nice, willing horse with a super temperament. I'm leaning towards loaning him out and leaving the sarcoid alone. It wasn't any trouble before the laser treatment. I don't really fancy the laser treatment again right now. He's going so well and is such fun, I don't want to put him out of action again. I'll talk to the vet and probably leave it be over the summer. Perhaps laser again next autumn. We should still be in within the insurance 12 months. Took him to a little show today (his second). He was nervous but as good as gold and came home with two seconds.

 

[southerncomfort]

Have you looked at sarcoid cure on FB?

Seems to have a high success rate and is much less invasive. As I understand it, she doesn't take payment but requests a donation to a horse charity.

My boy has a small sarcoid in his armpit. It's stayed stable so I've left it alone but I'm probably going to try the sarcoid cure and see if we can get rid of it.

 

[Marigold4]

Have you looked at sarcoid cure on FB?

Seems to have a high success rate and is much less invasive. As I understand it, she doesn't take payment but requests a donation to a horse charity.

My boy has a small sarcoid in his armpit. It's stayed stable so I've left it alone but I'm probably going to try the sarcoid cure and see if we can get rid of it.

Thanks. I'll take a look.

 

[SpotsandBays]

Thanks. I'll take a look.

I really recommend the Sarcoid Cure, have removed 3 with it

 

[Tiddlypom]

Please discuss whether to leave it over the summer or not with your vet.

My vets tell me never to annoy a sarcoid. Either leave it well alone or zap it completely.

For whatever reason, the lasering has annoyed this sarcoid and 4 months on it is already growing back. You risk it blowing up and ulcerating over summer when treatment is much less likely to be successful because of the flies.

If it is successfully removed second time round then that makes him more marketable. As it is, there is a big question mark hanging over him.

 

[cauda equina]

I bought a horse who had a previously treated sarcoid, angry and prone to bleeding, inside his thigh and a quiet dry one on his chest
Our physio said to try homeopathic thuja tablets - ordinary human ones eg from Boots
Both sarcoids went within months; the hair grew back and no more sarcoids appeared and I lost him to something unrelated

 

[Marigold4]

Here's a photo of the pony in question. Such a good boy on his second ever outing, cantering in company and in a new venue. Also took him to a pole clinic this weekend and may have found a local young rider for a loan. Excuse my grimace in the photo - hate having photo taken and this was meant to be a smile!

 

[Penguin_Toes]

He is absolutely gorgeous and you look lovely!

 

[splashgirl45]

He looks really nice, good luck with the loan

 

[Melody Grey]

By all means get the sarcoid treated again @Marigold4 if you’re still insured- you’ve nothing to lose. Google Radiance Gold- it’s a gut supplement that boosts immunity and does wonders with sarcoids (all documented and of great interest to vets)…. Would be a good back up plan and may help to keep others from appearing?

 

[Melody Grey]

Re: sarcoids being spread from one horse to another by flies, I’ve been around some pretty riddled ones (not mine!) and mine have never caught them so I’m dubious as to whether that’s true.

 

[Lamehorses]

Re: sarcoids being spread from one horse to another by flies, I’ve been around some pretty riddled ones (not mine!) and mine have never caught them so I’m dubious as to whether that’s true.

Mine was riddled with them, eventually pts. We were on a large 30+ horse yard. No other horse got them, lived out pretty much 24/7 in a large herd, no fly rugs