CharCharSlide
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as above really. have chestnut foal with 3 white legs, white face and some small white patches on belly any1 know?
how much white needed to be classed as a coloured??
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toffeesmarty
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If you look on the CHAPS or British Piebald and Skewbald Society pages the rules on where and how large the patches have to be are all there.
scotsmare
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I think the patches have to be 15 cm x 15cm to be considered coloured.
browbrow
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Hello
You dont need tons and tons - my mare does really well at coloured showing - but the sceret is to be evenly marked - she has four big white stockings all even - a black and white tail and black and white mane and one small stripe of white on each side of her neck and an even white snip on her face.
They just have to be evenly marked and nicely marked if you get me - they dont all have to be super patchy - and if they are super patchy - it has to be even. x
You dont need tons and tons - my mare does really well at coloured showing - but the sceret is to be evenly marked - she has four big white stockings all even - a black and white tail and black and white mane and one small stripe of white on each side of her neck and an even white snip on her face.
They just have to be evenly marked and nicely marked if you get me - they dont all have to be super patchy - and if they are super patchy - it has to be even. x
Kallibear
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Not sure on the size (think it's bigger than your hand) but fairly certain it has to be above the point of the elbow, on the body/neck. Belly splash and legs don't count.
quirky
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The white has to be above the stifle area to count, as Kallibear says, belly splashes alone to not count.
k9h
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Copied from CHAPS
WHAT IS A COLOURED ANIMAL?
The definition of a coloured animal is black and white (piebald) or white and any other colour, e.g, bay, roan, chestnut (skewbald) with a patch of naturally occuring white coat. This white patch must be on the body above the level of the stifle or elbow, excluding face markings. Any white marking below this does not qualify. Manes and tails may also be white or have white in them. Appaloosa animals with belly markings do not qualify.
If there is any doubt as to whether an animal is classified as 'coloured' photographs showing all markings should be submitted to CHAPS(UK) Administration for referral to Council at the next available meeting, if further clarification is required a representative of CHAPS(UK) Council will be required to inspect the animal at a mutually agreed location. Should further verification prove necessary, DNA testing will be required for the presence of the'coloured' gene.
WHAT IS A COLOURED ANIMAL?
The definition of a coloured animal is black and white (piebald) or white and any other colour, e.g, bay, roan, chestnut (skewbald) with a patch of naturally occuring white coat. This white patch must be on the body above the level of the stifle or elbow, excluding face markings. Any white marking below this does not qualify. Manes and tails may also be white or have white in them. Appaloosa animals with belly markings do not qualify.
If there is any doubt as to whether an animal is classified as 'coloured' photographs showing all markings should be submitted to CHAPS(UK) Administration for referral to Council at the next available meeting, if further clarification is required a representative of CHAPS(UK) Council will be required to inspect the animal at a mutually agreed location. Should further verification prove necessary, DNA testing will be required for the presence of the'coloured' gene.
Enfys
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What about 'solid' paints (coloureds) then?
I wonder what CHAPS would say about that. My mare threw a 'solid' colt, it would have been eligible to be registered as a Paint. Guess that is the difference between a Colour Society and a Breed Society though.
If a solid is bred from a coloured, or two coloureds, then presumably it would carry the coloured gene...or would it? If so, it would HAVE to be eligible for registration would it not?
I wonder what CHAPS would say about that. My mare threw a 'solid' colt, it would have been eligible to be registered as a Paint. Guess that is the difference between a Colour Society and a Breed Society though.
If a solid is bred from a coloured, or two coloureds, then presumably it would carry the coloured gene...or would it? If so, it would HAVE to be eligible for registration would it not?
chillidragon
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I think if it's in the right area not very much is needed at all. Wasn't Bits & Pieces technically a coloured? Hang on, let me see if I can find a piccie of him...
volatis
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Enfys, the colour (tobiano) gene is dominant, if a horse is carrying it, it will be coloured, even if it is quite minimal.
CHAPS do regsiter solid foals from coloured parents, but they cant show in coloured classes.
CHAPS do regsiter solid foals from coloured parents, but they cant show in coloured classes.
Enfys
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Enfys, the colour (tobiano) gene is dominant, if a horse is carrying it, it will be coloured, even if it is quite minimal.
CHAPS do regsiter solid foals from coloured parents, but they cant show in coloured classes.
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Ah, Thankyou Volatis. I knew that someone would know.
Enfys, the colour (tobiano) gene is dominant, if a horse is carrying it, it will be coloured, even if it is quite minimal.
CHAPS do regsiter solid foals from coloured parents, but they cant show in coloured classes.
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