How should I charge for livery pros and cons

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I keep my horses at home but one of them is on his last legs and was thinking of taking in a livery to keep my horse company and to share costs. I have all the hay already for the winter so charge would include hay - should I charge different for winter/summer? I would prefer to include the cost of twice a year worming (don't need more because I'm a avid poo picker) so I would be in control of that. My horses are kept out all the year with shelters where each horse has separate stable - any ideas for prices and pros and cons of bringing somebody into their horsey life? How do I protect against people ripping me off and not paying or getting left with a horse that they are not paying for?
 
Def have a deposit and contract. I would have expectations for each party included in that, like poo picking, worming, vaccinations, responsibilities for maintenence etc. Livery paid a month in advance should also help guard against someone doing a bunk while owing you £. Diff summer and winter costs really depends on if it will cost you different amounts for the seasons? Perhaps charge differently with/without hay instead? If including hay then I wouldn't include adlib- adlib is included at our yard which means people completly take the mick with it! Perhaps have a usual daily amount included, then the livery can pay extra if they want more, eg to put lots extra in field etc? If at all possible trying to get a reference from their current yard might help weed out troublemakers?
 
glosgirl said:
Def have a deposit and contract. I would have expectations for each party included in that, like poo picking, worming, vaccinations, responsibilities for maintenence etc. Livery paid a month in advance should also help guard against someone doing a bunk while owing you £. Diff summer and winter costs really depends on if it will cost you different amounts for the seasons? Perhaps charge differently with/without hay instead? If including hay then I wouldn't include adlib- adlib is included at our yard which means people completly take the mick with it! Perhaps have a usual daily amount included, then the livery can pay extra if they want more, eg to put lots extra in field etc? If at all possible trying to get a reference from their current yard might help weed out troublemakers?

Thanks for that - especially the tip about adlib hay - I can see how that could be abused but I'm not sure what the cost should be per horse per week without anything as I never had horses before I got my own place.
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Agree you should draw up a basic contract and some rules to prevent any mis understandings. Also charge a months rent in advance. I would charge a set amount each month and when they want to feed hay can buy off u as they need it. We have a board at the yard and mark off what we take. We then get an invoice at the end of the month. We also get provided with wormers when they are due and again is charged on the invoice. Good luck :) x
 
as a start basis you have to work out what your rates (would be business as hiring out!) are per year, insurance (public liability and 3 c liability, cos as the landowner you are responsible for all stock on the land for theft and straying) and your water rates, your electric, your field maintenance costs (fert, lime, rolling, harrowing, topping) and any other expenses like making the hay and storage, then divide by 52. that will give you an idea of a base cost per week
 
Thanks everybody but can somebody tell me how much do they pay for grass livery per week is it £15? I know how much the hay, fertilizer, wormers are etc but just can't find out what is reasonable for grazing charges - anybody please?
 
I used to pay £100 a month for 2 dinky ponies on just under 2 acres of land with water and natural shelter. Everything else was on top and I could use a stable for £2 a night if ever needed which came complete with a straw bed.
 
seems to be in surrey £20-£25 per week for grass livery not including hay or feed or any facilities such as a school. With a school (no floodlights) and full grass livery including rug changes and feed is £240pcm. We are near Guildford and it is an extortionate area cost wise to live in!
 
Round me DIY livery inc haylage is £30 - £35 per week all year round (after all they eat the grass in summer that you have to keep in good heart with harrowing / rolling / weed killing / muck spread / etc & unless you do all that yourself it isn't cheap.). Winter turnout depends on weather / state of ground. Horses must be stabled at night winter & summer & usually there is use of an arena.
 
You could probably charge up to £100 pcm I think depending where you are based. I would charge them extra for the wormer as and when you supply it.

I pay £150pcm for DIY livery which includes a stable, grazing, 20x60 ish outdoor, hay and straw (I choose to buy in my own haylage and shavings) and YO turnsout in mornings and brings in if need be. Its the cheapest around.
 
I was £19.50 p/w for DIY grass livery with Hay included, at last yard. so, £78 p/m.
One before that was £18 DIY grass livery with £40 a month for hay in field so, £72 in summer and £112 in winter per month.
One I'm at now is £12 p/w but have to buy my own hay in, £48 per month.
All of these were going by calendar months. :)
 
I pay £23 per week for grass livery in Herts and that includes hayledge over the winter. However the other yard i'm at charges £35 per week for grass livery although you get your own stable but still quite a variance. .
 
Thanks everyone really appreciate it- it seems that Scotland is definitely more reasonable in charges than England you poor people seem to have to pay a fortune for grass! (obviously I'm in Scotland)
 
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