How to improve a very poor, lazy canter.

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Some horses have a naturally good canter. Others don't. Piper is sadly one of the latter.

He's not had a huge amount of schooling due to facilities but has recently moved to a yard with an indoor school and started doing a lot more. His walk trot work has come on leaps and bounds and he starting to maintain a balanced outline, put some power in and be (almost :rolleyes: ) forward thinking and sharp. Canter is still quite frankly crap tho :o

He has done a fair amount of cantering out hacking and hunting but in the school it is SOOOOO downhill and has utterly no motivation. He's a bit of a lazy sod anyways and needs constantly reminded to put some effort into trot and not slow to a crawl in walk. He's the same under saddle and, on the lunge and even inhand. The canter is beyond a joke though. He is so on the forehand if feels like you're going downhill. Put your leg on and he just curls deeper if you have a contact, or stretches down even more when you don't. Use a stick and he hitches his bum in the air in protest and gets even MORE downhill. His canter goes nowhere and if you try to lift his front end it gets even shorter than breaks.

The only time he proves he can actually canter is when he's enthusiastic about something (rare. Cantering towards home does the trick and he has an amazing, easy uphill flowing canter) or someone's on the ground chasing him with a lunge whip :(

The canter transition is pretty good. He'll keep the bum tucked under and the power from trot for 2 strides than just collapse on the forehand and need forced. He hates it, I hate it and we .both get frustrated.

Id say the biggest issue is he's naturally lazy and puts as little effort in as he thinks I'll allow. Because he finds it difficult he doesn't want to do it and puts even less effort in.

Im rather at a lost with ways of improving it. We've currently not bothered cantering for the last week or two as it ruins an otherwise good schooling session.

Suggestions please?
 
I have an ID mare who used to really struggle with canter. A lot of it was to do with fitness. We had to build up her canter fitness before working on getting a good active canter which pushed through from behind. Initially it was helpful to follow another horse in canter as she was more active without as much effort from me and it was also more fun for her to follow a friend. Either out on hacks or in the school I would increase the length of each canter without worrying too much about outline or whether it is a bit downhill. Once fit enough to maintain the canter for several minutes you can then work on getting the canter more uphill.
I have no idea about your horse but my mare was a little overweight and as she got fitter and her weight dropped she seemed to enjoy the work more which really helped. We also worked on her responding to lighter aids and doing lots of transitions in the lower paces whilst increasing her fitness. Once she was fitter we used canter from walk so she starts off using her hindquarters and finds it easier to maintain and uphill canter. Transitions in canter really help with activity but I didn't work on transitions in canter until she was able to continue cantering for several laps of the school. She is also more active and uphill whilst cantering on a circle and when going large it helps to keep her slightly shoulder fore to keep her from running onto her forehand.
This is only my experience with one horse so I'm sure others will have other suggestions but fitness was really the key to improving my mare's canter.
 
My appy had an uncomfortable bumpy canter that felt like four beats instead of three. We did lots of hacking, trot to canter and back down and as he got fitter and stronger I found he wasn't dragging his bum around. Now he's bouncy and upright instead of leaning on the forehand all the time. I think as the other have said, its all about strength, balance and confidence.
 
Strengthening the hind end - its not laziness its because he's not capable.

You need lots of hills to get the back end going, rein back to trot then rein back to canter so you boing into the canter rather than running flat and falling. Also keep it short, 3-5 strides and back to trot. :)
 
I would be inclined to keep schooling sessions short. And fill them with quality transitions not just in canter halt- trot-walk-trot-halt-trot- canter (few strides as upbeat as poss)- trot- canter- walk-trot walk- etc
 
Transitions in the school and transitions uphills out hacking. S is the same and her canter is abysmal when trying to school on the flat but add jumps and its fabulous. Ive been doing transitions under saddle and on the lunge with her, especially on hills.
 
Transitions, transitions, transitions, hill work and pole work and SIT UP. It is very easy to find yourself leaning forward to 'push the horse on', needless tosay it doesn't work.
 
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