flowerlady
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New Learner, Novice, Experienced or Professional (in what discipline or way)?
New Learner, Novice, Experienced or Professional (in what discipline or way)?
How would you describe yourself as a rider? and why?
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QUICKFIRE
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you forgot to mention disabled
flowerlady
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you forgot to mention disabled
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Sorry! I didn't forget as as a rider they would be learner, novice, experienced or proffessional!
you forgot to mention disabled
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Sorry! I didn't forget as as a rider they would be learner, novice, experienced or proffessional!
Tinkerbee
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Shite
due to stumpy little legs and knees which dont work and general inability to ride
due to stumpy little legs and knees which dont work and general inability to ride
flowerlady
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due to stumpy little legs and knees which dont work and general inability to ride
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That didn't answer the question did it TB
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due to stumpy little legs and knees which dont work and general inability to ride
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That didn't answer the question did it TB
Starbucks
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Experienced, but that doesn't mean good!
Only thing I think I am good at is hunting - I think I can produce young horses to be good hunters, but my idea of a "good hunter" might be a lot different to everyone elses!
SJ and XC, I'm not bad, but not great - so experienced but rubbish!
Dressage - Beginner/novice.... just bad!
Only thing I think I am good at is hunting - I think I can produce young horses to be good hunters, but my idea of a "good hunter" might be a lot different to everyone elses!
SJ and XC, I'm not bad, but not great - so experienced but rubbish!
Dressage - Beginner/novice.... just bad!
PapaFrita
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It varies from day to day and sometimes hour to hour!! Today my YO made me feel like a complete novice after riding one of his horses, and then Antifaz boosted my self-esteem by jumping beautifully for me. PF likes to show me how little I actually know, but she does that to everyone
Annette4
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I'd describe myself as competant but nervous and overcritical.
I don't think I'd a 'bad' rider but I'd never claim to be good or experienced. I can do a novice dressage test and jump up to 2ft9 confidently on a horse I trust but I'm nervous jumping horses I don't know. I get shouted at for being over critical of my ability and I like to think I'm quiet and balanced. I am far too used to forward going horses though...I HATE 'backwards' horses and just can't ride them.
I don't think I'd a 'bad' rider but I'd never claim to be good or experienced. I can do a novice dressage test and jump up to 2ft9 confidently on a horse I trust but I'm nervous jumping horses I don't know. I get shouted at for being over critical of my ability and I like to think I'm quiet and balanced. I am far too used to forward going horses though...I HATE 'backwards' horses and just can't ride them.
L00bey
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experienced as in I have ridden a very large variety of horses from teeny tiny to very large. Flatwork, xc, jumping hacking, have done a fair bit of cometing and my fair share of PC
but I don't rate myself as a rider. I sort of think of myself as neither good nor bad just another ordinary rider. If you get me
flowerlady
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I'd describe myself as competant but nervous and overcritical.
I don't think I'd a 'bad' rider but I'd never claim to be good or experienced. I can do a novice dressage test and jump up to 2ft9 confidently on a horse I trust but I'm nervous jumping horses I don't know. I get shouted at for being over critical of my ability and I like to think I'm quiet and balanced. I am far too used to forward going horses though...I HATE 'backwards' horses and just can't ride them.
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So you mean 'I HATE 'backwards' horses '(Lazy horses)?
If you were looking to buy a horse would you look at ' Novice ride, or needs experienced rider?
I'd describe myself as competant but nervous and overcritical.
I don't think I'd a 'bad' rider but I'd never claim to be good or experienced. I can do a novice dressage test and jump up to 2ft9 confidently on a horse I trust but I'm nervous jumping horses I don't know. I get shouted at for being over critical of my ability and I like to think I'm quiet and balanced. I am far too used to forward going horses though...I HATE 'backwards' horses and just can't ride them.
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So you mean 'I HATE 'backwards' horses '(Lazy horses)?
If you were looking to buy a horse would you look at ' Novice ride, or needs experienced rider?
flowerlady
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experienced as in I have ridden a very large variety of horses from teeny tiny to very large. Flatwork, xc, jumping hacking, have done a fair bit of cometing and my fair share of PC
but I don't rate myself as a rider. I sort of think of myself as neither good nor bad just another ordinary rider. If you get me
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What I was trying to find out was the same question I asked Annette. What sort of horse would you look for if buying if advert said 'Novice or experienced rider' I think these two descriptions are left quite wide open to imterpretation. Beacuse to me a Novice eventer is not a novice rider buy someone maybe looking for their first horse may think its a horse for someone who wants to try a few local Gymkana's?
Also the word forward going seems to be interpreted differently amonst alot of my horsey friends.
experienced as in I have ridden a very large variety of horses from teeny tiny to very large. Flatwork, xc, jumping hacking, have done a fair bit of cometing and my fair share of PC
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What I was trying to find out was the same question I asked Annette. What sort of horse would you look for if buying if advert said 'Novice or experienced rider' I think these two descriptions are left quite wide open to imterpretation. Beacuse to me a Novice eventer is not a novice rider buy someone maybe looking for their first horse may think its a horse for someone who wants to try a few local Gymkana's?
Also the word forward going seems to be interpreted differently amonst alot of my horsey friends.
Starbucks
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I'd describe myself as competant but nervous and overcritical.
I don't think I'd a 'bad' rider but I'd never claim to be good or experienced. I can do a novice dressage test and jump up to 2ft9 confidently on a horse I trust but I'm nervous jumping horses I don't know. I get shouted at for being over critical of my ability and I like to think I'm quiet and balanced. I am far too used to forward going horses though...I HATE 'backwards' horses and just can't ride them.
So you mean 'I HATE 'backwards' horses '(Lazy horses)?
If you were looking to buy a horse would you look at ' Novice ride, or needs experienced rider?
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Personally, I wouldn't go for either, I don't understand why people put these things.
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I'd describe myself as competant but nervous and overcritical.
I don't think I'd a 'bad' rider but I'd never claim to be good or experienced. I can do a novice dressage test and jump up to 2ft9 confidently on a horse I trust but I'm nervous jumping horses I don't know. I get shouted at for being over critical of my ability and I like to think I'm quiet and balanced. I am far too used to forward going horses though...I HATE 'backwards' horses and just can't ride them.
So you mean 'I HATE 'backwards' horses '(Lazy horses)?
If you were looking to buy a horse would you look at ' Novice ride, or needs experienced rider?
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Personally, I wouldn't go for either, I don't understand why people put these things.
ajn1610
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I always say I'm a competent Novice.
I've done my BHS Stages, started a few, worked at a few yards, competed BE, BSJA, BD lower levels with OK results.
I'm pretty confident but not hell for leather. I'm aware enough to realise my weak areas and try and improve them. I think my worst fault as a rider is I get fixated on my negatives and frustrated with myself.
I've done my BHS Stages, started a few, worked at a few yards, competed BE, BSJA, BD lower levels with OK results.
I'm pretty confident but not hell for leather. I'm aware enough to realise my weak areas and try and improve them. I think my worst fault as a rider is I get fixated on my negatives and frustrated with myself.
jo1
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SB - i put experianced rider only on Indys advert as she is a 4yr old who needs an experianced rider - she is DEF not a novice ride!!!!
im not sure what i would class myself as a rider as i am suffering from lack of confidence atm bt am working on that. Am a quiet rider with soft hands bt have developed lots of bad habits LOL, i can ride most things, hack out, do a decent standard dressage test and jump (bt i hate it LoL)
im not sure what i would class myself as a rider as i am suffering from lack of confidence atm bt am working on that. Am a quiet rider with soft hands bt have developed lots of bad habits LOL, i can ride most things, hack out, do a decent standard dressage test and jump (bt i hate it LoL)
Starbucks
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I think if it said "novice or experienced rider" it would mean it was a nice horse, who you could stick anyone on to go for a hack and teach people the ropes, but who could also perform in whatever discipline he/she is advertised to do.
They do exist!! My mums horse is the best hunter ever - field mastered etc., done really well BSJA and BE but my OH who has never sat on a horse before has hacked him out and been completely safe.
They do exist!! My mums horse is the best hunter ever - field mastered etc., done really well BSJA and BE but my OH who has never sat on a horse before has hacked him out and been completely safe.
Box_Of_Frogs
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Tinkerbee - you may not have answered the question but boy did I PMSL! Another vote here for shite! (But happy shite!)
Blackhawk
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As above.
New Learner, Novice, Experienced or Professional (in what discipline or way)?
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You forgot intermediate.
As above.
New Learner, Novice, Experienced or Professional (in what discipline or way)?
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You forgot intermediate.
flowerlady
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I think if it said "novice or experienced rider" it would mean it was a nice horse, who you could stick anyone on to go for a hack and teach people the ropes, but who could also perform in whatever discipline he/she is advertised to do.
They do exist!! My mums horse is the best hunter ever - field mastered etc., done really well BSJA and BE but my OH who has never sat on a horse before has hacked him out and been completely safe.
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No I meant if you were looking for a new horse because some didn't really know how to describe themselves as a rider. So I asked would you look at a horse advertised as a Novice ride. OR would you look at a horse that said for an experienced rider. Sorry for the way I put it down.
I'm not looking for a new horse but when you see some horses advertised and to be honest the horses some people look at for themselves how honest are we about our riding?
I also think that these phrases do not describe the horse as everyone has a different perception of what they mean. Don't you?
I think if it said "novice or experienced rider" it would mean it was a nice horse, who you could stick anyone on to go for a hack and teach people the ropes, but who could also perform in whatever discipline he/she is advertised to do.
They do exist!! My mums horse is the best hunter ever - field mastered etc., done really well BSJA and BE but my OH who has never sat on a horse before has hacked him out and been completely safe.
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No I meant if you were looking for a new horse because some didn't really know how to describe themselves as a rider. So I asked would you look at a horse advertised as a Novice ride. OR would you look at a horse that said for an experienced rider. Sorry for the way I put it down.
I'm not looking for a new horse but when you see some horses advertised and to be honest the horses some people look at for themselves how honest are we about our riding?
I also think that these phrases do not describe the horse as everyone has a different perception of what they mean. Don't you?
Starbucks
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Thats what I meant with my original comment.... I wouldn't go to look at horse if they said "suit novice rider" or "suit experienced rider"
We tend to buy horses from dealers, and they don't seem to say...
just height, age, breed, what it's done etc... I've only really bought 2 horses myself, one was in a local paper and turned out to be someone we knew, he turned out to be a great horse (as long as you don't want to hunt!!) and the other, my Badger, was through word of mouth, it was our old huntsman and he said "I've got the perfect horse for you Sarah" at a team chase, I think what he really meant was " we've got a horse we can't do anything with, maybe you could???"
Anyway, he is perfect for me, and i don't like advertisements saying if I am or not suitable... so go for those that don't say.. I think!
We tend to buy horses from dealers, and they don't seem to say...
just height, age, breed, what it's done etc... I've only really bought 2 horses myself, one was in a local paper and turned out to be someone we knew, he turned out to be a great horse (as long as you don't want to hunt!!) and the other, my Badger, was through word of mouth, it was our old huntsman and he said "I've got the perfect horse for you Sarah" at a team chase, I think what he really meant was " we've got a horse we can't do anything with, maybe you could???"
Anyway, he is perfect for me, and i don't like advertisements saying if I am or not suitable... so go for those that don't say.. I think!
RunToEarth
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Well I've been riding since I was a tot, and I have had a few difficult horses, but I would say my strengths definately sit with XC and jumping, as opposed to flatwork.
Whilst I understand the need for flatwork, I always go into my arena reluctantly, and I always feel most confident jumping big things.
I believe the evidence is with my horse, Oshk, who I have had since a 5yo. I have IMO improved on him jumping to no end, but have been rubbish with his flatwork and so that is no where near as good, which has in turn hindered his sj, a problem now being rectified.
Whilst I understand the need for flatwork, I always go into my arena reluctantly, and I always feel most confident jumping big things.
I believe the evidence is with my horse, Oshk, who I have had since a 5yo. I have IMO improved on him jumping to no end, but have been rubbish with his flatwork and so that is no where near as good, which has in turn hindered his sj, a problem now being rectified.
Storminateacup
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Disabled, competent, but shite. I hate the fact that after 30 odd years of riding I still have so much I cannot physically accomplish in my riding. I try awfully hard all the time, even when I m relaxing out hacking I always think I should be doing something to improve this, that or the other, and always feel I should be fitter or more flexible or more co-ordinated or better tuned to my horse.
I would be best with a schoolmaster in any discipline , cos I've never been very brave. Would never look at something that is needing an experienced rider.
Just because you love a particular sport it doesn't mean your going to be a natural at it!
I would be best with a schoolmaster in any discipline , cos I've never been very brave. Would never look at something that is needing an experienced rider.
Just because you love a particular sport it doesn't mean your going to be a natural at it!
flowerlady
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As above.
New Learner, Novice, Experienced or Professional (in what discipline or way)?
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You forgot intermediate.
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What would you call imtermediate?
(before experienced or after)
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As above.
New Learner, Novice, Experienced or Professional (in what discipline or way)?
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You forgot intermediate.
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What would you call imtermediate?
flowerlady
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So the concensors seems that out of 13 people who answered only 3 people have catagorised themselves in one of the choices.
I've been riding over 40 years and would if pushed describe myself as a novice. So why do people who advertise not be more specific when selling a horse? Easiest I suppose. But I have in the past been to look at Novice rides (which I certainly would not class as a calm well mannered easy ride). To also apparently Experienced ride that is a little ploddy. So I agree with Starbucks that I would prefer people did not catagorise the horse unless it is a nutcase which is the way I always tend think an Experienced ride is or even Needs confident rider!. Equals to me unpredictable ie: may bolt for no apparent reason or rear, broncho or such like.
Trying to read between the lines is so frustrating.
I've been riding over 40 years and would if pushed describe myself as a novice. So why do people who advertise not be more specific when selling a horse? Easiest I suppose. But I have in the past been to look at Novice rides (which I certainly would not class as a calm well mannered easy ride). To also apparently Experienced ride that is a little ploddy. So I agree with Starbucks that I would prefer people did not catagorise the horse unless it is a nutcase which is the way I always tend think an Experienced ride is or even Needs confident rider!. Equals to me unpredictable ie: may bolt for no apparent reason or rear, broncho or such like.
Trying to read between the lines is so frustrating.
hellsdarkrose
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A relearning Novice I think.
embonaught
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By the same token, I really thing lots of people overestimate their ability. It's easy enough to say 'Oh yes, I'm good at jumping if I'm on something confident' or, 'I'll ride anything that nobody else does' but if actually faced by the prospect I suspect there'd be a few changing their minds. Not saying everyone's like this but I would say, from experience, well over half of people are!
AmyMay
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Competent.
bex1984
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Complete Numpty...but in those categories I am the very bottom end of the novice scale.
BeckyD
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Novice in just about every way. New learner at some things (dressage, XC, competing). 20+ years of riding and I've only made it as far as novice. Sad eh?!
bhpride
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God knows. Tia certainly wouldn't be suited to a novice rider as she's a spooky wizzy bugger but I class myself as a novice that has never enjoyed hacking lol. I have an independent/good seat, light hands but I have a lot to learn. Am also very self critical and a perfectionist which is probably why I love schooling..tend to put myself down an awful lot as will. Always tell my instructor I've come for a lesson because I'm crap lol
Novice rider - in an Ad makes me imagine someone that either hasn't been riding long or someone who's very insecure in the saddle - couldn't ride without stirrups flapping arms/hanging on mouth inconsistent position..likely to fall off
Novice rider - in an Ad makes me imagine someone that either hasn't been riding long or someone who's very insecure in the saddle - couldn't ride without stirrups flapping arms/hanging on mouth inconsistent position..likely to fall off
Ellies_mum2
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Novice but confident in known situations if that makes sense lol.
If I'm trying something new I'm nervous and I'll tense my legs
If I'm trying something new I'm nervous and I'll tense my legs