hunt sabb's!!!!going to far man!!

Im not sure if Ive read your post correctly, but it seems to me,
Vid 1, Is the sabs being attacked bye the huntsmen and his followers?

Vid 3, Is a sab using there resources? To there advantage with no violence?
 
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Im not sure if Ive read your post correctly, but it seems to me,
Vid 1, Is the sabs being attacked bye the huntsmen and his followers?

Vid 3, Is a sab using there resources? To there advantage with no violence?

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its just a taster of how difficult sabs can be to work with, they interfere with the huntsmens ability to manage the hounds by calling them. They also hurl abuse, it is because they can be so abusive and threatening that the huntmen retaliate, because their are interfeering with the job of us huntspeople. and they are just stupid and dont really take into the account the purpose of hunting they are just so called 'animal lovers'. grrg
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But hh surely the nature of a hunt sab is to sabotage a hunt, not to make it easy for them?
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(I'm firmly on the fence BTW just trying to understand
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Im not sure if Ive read your post correctly, but it seems to me,
Vid 1, Is the sabs being attacked bye the huntsmen and his followers?

Vid 3, Is a sab using there resources? To there advantage with no violence?

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its just a taster of how difficult sabs can be to work with, they interfere with the huntsmens ability to manage the hounds by calling them. They also hurl abuse, it is because they can be so abusive and threatening that the huntmen retaliate, because their are interfeering with the job of us huntspeople. and they are just stupid and dont really take into the account the purpose of hunting they are just so called 'animal lovers'. grrg
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Well that justifies beating the crap out of a woman.

I'm not anti hunting and pro sabs, I'm anti violence and certainly wouldn't have posted that first video in defence of hunting.
 
Hmm, perhaps they wer'nt the best videos to try and explain how i feel abouts sabbs
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, bbut in regardless i really dont think they take into account exactly 'why' we hunt.
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I'm not anti hunting and pro sabs, I'm anti violence and certainly wouldn't have posted that first video in defence of hunting.

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I quite agree.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-hunt in the slightest. I'm very well aware it's six of one half a dozen of the other and that some sabs have done horrific things to huntsmen and horses.

That first video was the worst one you could have chosen to post in defence of hunting and anti sab.
 
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REgardless of the sabs attitude, there is no excuse for the level of violence shown by the huntsman in the first video. Punching a woman is not excusable and I hope he was prosecuted.

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not sure, but i know a sab was presecuted for kicking a horse. and injuring it
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" Hmm, perhaps they wer'nt the best videos to try and explain how i feel abouts sabbs , bbut in regardless i really dont think they take into account exactly 'why' we hunt. ... "

Explain ...
 
Well for example, they hurl abuse at the innocent kids out hunting, they make remarks like 'You cruel, murderers, why do you murder innocent foxes', which to me is the dialog of genuine 'animal lovers' who cant or wont understand the meaning of hunting. They have it set in their minds that hunting is a pure 'fun' sport done by toffs who have nothing better to do.
it just makes me wonder wether they have families to feed in the country or have poultry industries and proffesions, or wether they have an early morning driving in to the hunt meet from local towns and cities where the only country side they see is about 3 yards of backdoor gardens...
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I understand your sentiments Helen and have, in the past felt the way you do now. I am asking you to expand on " i really dont think they take into account exactly 'why' we hunt. ... "
 
There is no excuse for punching a woman in the face, BUT what sane person stands infront of the hunt and then wonders why they get knocked down? What sane person attacks a rider on a horse? Sabs are bonkers ...
 
I hunt.

Before the ban I went out on hunts that were followed by anti's and sabs. I have to say I saw the sabs do some foul things, merging in and out of the trees, and attacking followers who were simply walking by. I'm serious, and I saw them do it. Spite and hatred from the antis, and from what I witnessed, no real interest in the animals, simply a class war.

Otoh, I saw some criminal damage occur, then listened when a pro hunt follower loudly declared the sabs/anti's had done the damage, soon backed up by several others who has 'seen' it happen and much disgust. Utter b*ll*cks. The loud woman and her companion caused the damage, they were right in front of me when it happened.

I think some sorts can be as bad as each other.

A true animal lover that suffers a concience on behalf of the hare/stag/fox I can understand to be honest. The reason for hunting I also understand.

Thugs, of either persuasion, are simply thugs.
 
I agree with Brontie and the others.
A sab who lays metal traps so the horse will walk on it IMO is not an animal lover.
There are surely better ways of protesting then standing in front of a horse shouting and screaming?
Thats just my opinion though.
 
Right.... I haven't seen the videos but I can't abide hunting of animals of any sort (and I don't care if I get slated on here for that!!). I am not a Sab though. But there does seem to be a twisted logic in the fact that you are happy to kill animals out hunting but are up in arms when people go out to purposely injure hunt animals (horses and dogs). Before you spout off at me I DO NOT agree with causing pain to ANY animal, I just can't get my head round why it's ok for people to injure and/or kill one type of animal but not another. Can you explain that to me?

And yes I understand why hunting is done but would rather the fox wasn't chased to it's death but taken out by an expert gunman (if it's necessary at all) who knows his job.

And please don't try and convince me that hunts don't kill foxes any more...

By the way your comments would probably have been better placed in the HUNTING part of this forum (and then I wouldn't have seen them....
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HW Sits back and waits for the onslaught.... and remembers why she doesn't frequent the hunting section
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I'm with you on this one HW, although I don't agree with the actions of the sabs either. I feel there is a twisted logic in the argument for hunting! Nothing more to add that you already haven't said!
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But there does seem to be a twisted logic in the fact that you are happy to kill animals out hunting but are up in arms when people go out to purposely injure hunt animals (horses and dogs).


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I think people get up in arms because some sabs call themselves 'animal lovers' yet they clearly have no qualms about injuring horses and hounds.
 
Ahh yes - a good point that I missed in my rant
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I totally agree with that. Why would so called animal lovers hurt an animal that cannot help the fact it's been trained by man to do a particular job, however distasteful it is to them. If that makes sense!
 
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Right.... I haven't seen the videos but I can't abide hunting of animals of any sort (and I don't care if I get slated on here for that!!). I am not a Sab though. But there does seem to be a twisted logic in the fact that you are happy to kill animals out hunting but are up in arms when people go out to purposely injure hunt animals (horses and dogs). Before you spout off at me I DO NOT agree with causing pain to ANY animal, I just can't get my head round why it's ok for people to injure and/or kill one type of animal but not another. Can you explain that to me?

And yes I understand why hunting is done but would rather the fox wasn't chased to it's death but taken out by an expert gunman (if it's necessary at all) who knows his job.

And please don't try and convince me that hunts don't kill foxes any more...

By the way your comments would probably have been better placed in the HUNTING part of this forum (and then I wouldn't have seen them....
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i think its great that you found this, as you are welcome to state your opinion. Im not going to tell you for one minuite that we dont kill foxes because we do, they are shot when found. and it is taken out by gunmen because thats the law, they are not chased down by hounds anymore, hounds are drawn away by the field when a fox is drawn out. and i think the sabbs were in the wroong when they injure the horse because what purpose was that for? how is that helping any situation, the fox is harmed because it predates on poultry which is basically a life form of money for farmers to keep food on our table, but by kicking the horse, i hardly think they will be payed for it.
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when did the horse get kicked and when did a trap get put down for a horse or are you just talking about what sabs do and that wasnt in the video? watching those vids really annoyed me actually i mean what sane person stands in front of a horse that is cantering anyway and the huntsman did ask them to move about three times!personally i think if they love animals soo much there are far worse things happening than bl00dy hunting!!!
 
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when did the horse get kicked and when did a trap get put down for a horse or are you just talking about what sabs do and that wasnt in the video? watching those vids really annoyed me actually i mean what sane person stands in front of a horse that is cantering anyway and the huntsman did ask them to move about three times!personally i think if they love animals soo much there are far worse things happening than bl00dy hunting!!!

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oh-no, the horse spoken about wasn't shown being kicked in that video, dont know about the traps, wasn't my quote lol. I agree, i think they have only chosen to sab hunting because it is shown more than any other culling on TV. Now if television broadcasted something that wasnt done for a purpose for example, cock fighting or bare baiting, then the sabb's would have died with shock!! seen as their animal lovers.
 
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I also feel this would have been better placed in the hunting forum.

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I agree
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i agree to, now!
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but its nice to heae peoples views on general hunting though
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and personally, i cant WAIT untill hunting starts!!! perfect start to winter
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