hunt sabs, animal lovers?????????

antiantianti

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The simple and unavoidable fact is that if you encourage more wildlife then you will have more suffering. By providing additional habitat they are increasing the numbers of foxes, badgers, hares, deer etc on their holdings.

All these animals will at some point suffer.

People who really care about animal welfare would seek to remove habitat resulting in less animals and less suffering.
 

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Poor bullied Carreg could simply deny my claim. Why doesn't he? If he's scared about replying he could always have a quick toke on some g13 first to cushion the blow.
 

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The simple and unavoidable fact is that if you encourage more wildlife then you will have more suffering. By providing additional habitat they are increasing the numbers of foxes, badgers, hares, deer etc on their holdings.

All these animals will at some point suffer.

People who really care about animal welfare would seek to remove habitat resulting in less animals and less suffering.
What an incredible statement - I can't work out whether you are being cynical/sarcastic or whether you really have no idea what you are talking about!!?
You have to agree that the English countryside is one of the prettiest in Europe and it looks that way thanks to the people who manage it. Part of this management is for hunting (the prettiest areas have a history of hunting eg New Forest, Exmoor etc). The advantages to hunting are that it preserves wildlife by maintaining hedges, copses etc and it keeps the countryside the way it is.
Are you suggesting that we turn England into a desert of arable fields with no hedgerows?
As I said, I hope you are just being a bit sarcastic!
 

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:shocked: I cannot believe what I have just read! Oh my good gods, I am disturbed that someone can write this nonsense let alone believe it :(. At some point in your life you will suffer (its called, being alive) so what is the answer? I know, Im a bit slow-its called "mass abortion" or "mass sterilization"= no one being born,= no one suffering ever again. Why didnt we think about this concept thousands of years ago, it would have been so simple and yet....? I am so glad to be alive in my sufferance. Sometimes Im ashamed to be an "anti"! Mairi.
 

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Reggie
I think you've a fetish about bullying, probably stems from the fact you've been bullied in the real world all your life, Ive told you before you're not capable of bullying me, on an internet forum or in real life, you simply dont have the tools, what would you like me to deny, or admit, Im sorry I havent read the whole thread, I take it its something to do with Moochers, you tell me what it is and you'll get your reply................Carreg
P.S Had to knock the blow, random blood tests at work, been 2 yrs now
 
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But what I can't understand is why pick on fox-hunting?"
I don't "pick" on fox hunting, I simply don't agree with it, there is no victimisation going on here.
"There is so much suffering in the world caused by the barbaric actions of humans"
Yes and fox hunting is one of them! Just because i care about fox hunting doesn't mean that my life revolves around that soley and that i haven't got enough time to care about starving children etc of course i don't even put fox hunting in the same catagory as this, but i do think fox hunting is unnecessarily barbarric. The other [****] going off on this planet really isn't relevant to this thread, if you want a debate about old ladies and starving children i'll say my piece on that as well! :)
"That's why I think that it is another dig at the wealthy - same as 4 x 4 drivers! The upper classes are despised for doing well for themselves. Or at least that's the impression this government gives!"
New Labour can hardly be considered a far left socialist government, and polliticly seem to be occupying the middle grounds. It's just that society has changed from what it was fifty years ago, and the upperclass can't assume that they can behave and carry on as they always have done unquestioned by society.
 

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Less wildlife means that less animals suffer. I'd have thought this is obvious. I used to have moles in my front garden but I concreted it over. If there are no moles then no moles will suffer.

people go on about the importance of conserving the exmoor herd of deer. Surely it is better for there to be no deer than for there to be deer that suffer.
 

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if thats the case you should be out there with the pros trying to kill as many animals as pos. What a terrible world it would be without animals and nature, sorry, I think you are warped :crazy:.
 

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I would never hunt with dogs it is far too inefficient.

I would never kill animals however the law makes it clear that shooting is preferred. This is because it kills so many more animals. If all the people that hunt now start shooting deer then there would soon be no more suffering.
 

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Less wildlife means that less animals suffer. I'd have thought this is obvious. I used to have moles in my front garden but I concreted it over. If there are no moles then no moles will suffer.

people go on about the importance of conserving the exmoor herd of deer. Surely it is better for there to be no deer than for there to be deer that suffer.
OK now I know you're being sarcastic!
Let's concrete over the whole of the countryside. No more suffering - phew!
 
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But what I can't understand is why pick on fox-hunting?"
I don't "pick" on fox hunting, I simply don't agree with it, there is no victimisation going on here.
"There is so much suffering in the world caused by the barbaric actions of humans"
Yes and fox hunting is one of them! Just because i care about fox hunting doesn't mean that my life revolves around that soley and that i haven't got enough time to care about starving children etc of course i don't even put fox hunting in the same catagory as this, but i do think fox hunting is unnecessarily barbarric. The other [****] going off on this planet really isn't relevant to this thread, if you want a debate about old ladies and starving children i'll say my piece on that as well! :)
"That's why I think that it is another dig at the wealthy - same as 4 x 4 drivers! The upper classes are despised for doing well for themselves. Or at least that's the impression this government gives!"
New Labour can hardly be considered a far left socialist government, and polliticly seem to be occupying the middle grounds. It's just that society has changed from what it was fifty years ago, and the upperclass can't assume that they can behave and carry on as they always have done unquestioned by society.
 
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