hunt straying onto private land (also in hunting)

I have no strong feelings about hunting either way

"She still finds it hard to talk about the event, which she says had a traumatising impact. "

Dear lord if the woman is traumatised from a pack of hounds running through the garden, imagine what she would be like if someone broke into her house???! Perhaps she ought to be in sheltered accomodation?
 
That is a bit dramatic, how can a pack of hounds be akin to a car crash.

We used to allow the hunt but they kept straying into some of te fields that we had expressley asked them to avoid. At worst is is a pain
 
No questions as to who's side the newspaper is taking here then! I can't say I have ever seen anything like this happen myself and don't know anything about the story but it seems to be completely over-exaggerated sensationalist rubbish.
 
Ha ha ha - did you see the advert next to the article??? Fox Hunting supplies -classic!!!!
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I shall look forward to watching the film and yes, to the general public it can be terrifying to see - And besides at the end of the day it's their land.

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Yes definately sensationalised (but then they are making a film and fims are sensationalised!!) but about the packs catching dogs, and cats????? I don't follow hunting, so therefore ask the question can a pack be 100% under control to not take a cat or pet dog if they come across one, I realise they wouldn't follow the scent but if they cannot be controlled to keep out of certain areas how can they be controlled not to set on a cat if they come across one????? I've seen cats killed and injured through dog attacks and once a dog lays chase to one then an owner is very rarely able to call it off, and that is one dog not a pack which hunts with pack mentality???????
 
Clearly being OTT in the car crash comparison, but I have some sympathy with the idea that tresspass is unacceptable.

If this was a post about a random walker taking his dogs for a stroll through a private field, we would all sympathise. I don't want walkers or dogs on my land any more than these women want the hunt in their gardens.
 
I live next door to my local hunt, and Ive bloodhounds in my house (yes my actual house!). They are smelly and dirty, and to be honest its a bit annoying but it certainly doesnt traumatise me! Have to say though-I do worry about my cats as I would assume that if they got hold of them they would kill them?
 
They sound like sad old biddies! I am going out with the bloodhounds this year (clean boot) so I hope there won't be any anti's - but these women are just searching for any media attention they can get - get a life is what I say
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There is an email address on there - we should send her this link!
 
"It was a moment of utter chaos" - they should try living in Brixton for a few days...

I agree that it's hugely over-sensationalised and the anti-hunt lobby will be all over it. However, it can be a huge shock if the hounds appear in the garden. It happened to us a couple of times when I was a teenager and our poor old dog (who was incredibly submissive having been the runt of the litter) was severely traumatised at least until her next dinner. I don't know about the hunt disembowelling pets, but I can imagine that it could happen on a very occasional basis.

With more and more housing estates encroaching on traditional hunting land and more non-rural people living there, the potential for conflicts and complaints such as this will only increase.
 
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I live next door to my local hunt, and Ive bloodhounds in my house (yes my actual house!). They are smelly and dirty, and to be honest its a bit annoying but it certainly doesnt traumatise me! Have to say though-I do worry about my cats as I would assume that if they got hold of them they would kill them?

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Bloodhounds nearly always hunt the boot i.e. man so imagine your cats would be in no more danger from them than from any other dog. You on the other hand ....
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Re the woman in the article stating she had filmed 4 separate attacks of hounds killing cats/small dogs, perhaps she might have been more use putting down her camera and trying to help. All sounds totaally over the top and sensationalist to me.
 
I am a bit suprised at the lack of sympathy for these women.

Yes, they do sound OTT in some of their claims, but a lot of people are scared of dogs and a pack of dogs running and barking can be a frightening sight. Considering this was in their own back yard and not in a public place, I think they have every right to ask that the dogs be better controlled.
 
Hmmm......interesting...

Not so long ago on here there were some fairly heated debates about whether it was ok to canter accross a stubble field before it had been ploughed......the 'get orff my laaand' brigade were practically apopleptic at the thought of someone merely cantering along their stubble field without permission

...........yet here a pack of hounds has trampled through someone elses property, without permission (ok, yes somewhat hysterical without doubt) but wheres the outrage now?

BTW...I am not anti-hunt or anti-anything, I just think people should apply 'rules' in general......
 
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I don't recall the other name - but Denise Ward is an anti-hunt 'activist' going back YEARS. In fact she's anti almost everything - a 'professional' campaigner!

I know the Masters of the Cotswold and they're a decent lot who have always bent over backwards to avoid confrontation. And they have a VERY good pack of hounds - which have always had a very good huntsman - so I doubt very much that they are 'running riot'!!

There is a small but very active group of antis in the Cotswold area - having spend a night outside the Cotswold Farmers' Hunt Ball (bad place to be - but I was working) - and seeing the abuse that the small crowd of 'demonstrators' subjected guests to - as well as being spat on and sworn at myself - I DON'T have a lot of sympathy for Denise Ward and her friends!
 
The tragedy of all this is the 'Urban Scrawl' and development of the countryside with newcommers moving in to areas that where traditional countrside and who have no understanding about how rural areas work.

If people don't want the hunt on their land then a simple call to the hunt will ensure that the hunt is aware that they should keep hounds away from a specific property.

Clearly any hunt wants to avoid any bad publicity and must ensure that they take every precaution possible to ensure that other peoples pets, livestock and property are not caused any harm by the activities of the hunt their hounds and the mounted and unmounted followers.

We all live in the same world and we must respect each other.
 
I can understand that having a pack of hounds trespassing into your garden would be annoying, I can't understand why these women are comparing it to being involved in a car crash!
If they are so traumatised by this they must have had very sheltered lives!
My response to them would be sh*t happens, deal with it.
 
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I live next door to my local hunt, and Ive bloodhounds in my house (yes my actual house!). They are smelly and dirty, and to be honest its a bit annoying but it certainly doesnt traumatise me! Have to say though-I do worry about my cats as I would assume that if they got hold of them they would kill them?

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Bloodhounds nearly always hunt the boot i.e. man so imagine your cats would be in no more danger from them than from any other dog. You on the other hand ....
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Re the woman in the article stating she had filmed 4 separate attacks of hounds killing cats/small dogs, perhaps she might have been more use putting down her camera and trying to help. All sounds totaally over the top and sensationalist to me.

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Thats good news as I do worry about them...my local hunt also have harriers though so am I right to assume they might be so safe??
 
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I've just seen your post, thanks for that information, very interesting.
I did wonder if these people were exagerating what had happened & thought they were probably just attention seekers but now it seems as well as being attention seekers they've got an axe to grind as well.
 
i think the women are being a bit dramatic for the newspaper. I used to hunt and worked for a master of a huge hunt and ive never known foxhounds to go after anything other than a fox, even when deer ran under their noses. As for the disembowelling in front of children, maybe the children were on the hunt? It makes out that they were in the garden playing and a random pack of hounds came and ripped open their cat. I dont think so!

I agree that sometimes hunts are disrespectful, and block the road, dont say thank you, etc. And tresspassing can cause damage. It is a landowners right to say what can and cannot happen on their land.

However, when will all these antis realise that fox hunting has been banned for years now! They follow a trail these days, whats wrong with that? It just proves that the antis never were trying to improve animal welfare, just disrupt something they didnt agree with. They got their ban, yet they still feel the need to cause trouble. Says alot to me
 
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That statement applies to BOTH sides of the hunting debate.

Sadly neither side will EVER have any respect for the other. Two groups of people so entrenched in their views and beliefs that neither side will ever budge one inch to see the others point of view.
 
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If people don't want the hunt on their land then a simple call to the hunt will ensure that the hunt is aware that they should keep hounds away from a specific property.



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Hmm... I don't think you should have to call someone or even make the slightest bit of effort really to make sure hunts or anyone for that matter doesn't ride or use your own land! It's their own land...! xx
 
I am not too sure why this woman's views on the hunt are relevant.

If the hounds tresspassed on her property then they shouldn't have. If she then uses this for extra publicity for her cause, well all I can say is that both sides of this debate will take every opportunity for sensationalist media exposure.

PeterNat: I don't see why this is an urban/rural issue. The countryside has very strong views on private property and tresspass. Ramblers, horse riders and travellers are often cited as examples of people who do not understand the rights of private land owners. Is the 'way of life' that hounds can go anywhere they like but everyone else should be kept out?
 
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Hmm... I don't think you should have to call someone or even make the slightest bit of effort really to make sure hunts or anyone for that matter doesn't ride or use your own land! It's their own land...! xx

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Totally agree!! This is an entirely bizarre suggestion! The hunt should ask explicit permission before crossing private land, not assume they can do so until told otherwise!
 
I understand that any one would be annoyed at hounds being on their land but they are insulting anyone who ahs been involved in a serios car crash as it is nothing even nearly similar. As i understand the hunt spends time and effort ensuring that full permission has been granted to ride on the land used for the hunt that day and so it as a very rare occurance that the hounds would stray. I would say that hounds are incredibly well trained and the master and whips do a fantastic job of controling them. If the women themselves had lost a pet to the hounds then fair enough but other wise but out of the areas in which you are not effected and we may have more sympathy for them getting on your land.
 
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