hunter trials- scotland BE times v's unaff xc ? confused......

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once you start competing BE, are the times for XC generally faster than the times you get unaff Hunter Trials?

im confused about the whole thing tbh.... we've been competing in Hunter Trials just for the last year really. Ive found at PC run events the times seem to be really slow and we tend to come in waaay under (like 2 mins, oops) RC seems to be a bit more reasonable... but Craigie for instance is a BHS event and has a nice fast time.

We won at craigie in september and so competed in the scottish champs at gleneagles yesterday. i assumed it would be a similar time to Craigie but, again, it appears it was slow as loads of people were under time. We came in a minute under.... we didnt fly exactly,just a nice forward canter.

see, now Im really confused about the whole HT/XC thing... i just couldnt not bring myself to bring my horse back to trot just in order to try and be more competetive....

we are aiming/hoping to try BE80 next year and have also qualified for the national BHS finals at ELand Lodge... will these times likely be the same? Or will they be quicker? Is BE generally a bit quicker?

I understand the optimum time is for safety etc but but some of the things Ive been to seem an awfully slow time.....
 
Well done for yesterday!
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As per my post, it seems hit or miss as to speeds. They should be published at the Secretary's tent/caravan so you can see if they are looking for a faster or slower time, but I often forget/don't have time to look.
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I've only been going XC this year as well and have been too fast at some events (yesterday at Gleneagles being one, Craigie 75cm in April the other) and too slow at others (Craigie 90cm more recently in Sep, along with the two BE Intros I did).

Although it's lovely to get placed and take home rosettes, I tend to ride at a pace I'm happy with. E.g. I wouldn't deliberately dawdle along just to waste time as I feel that would confuse her when we next went out to do BE and need a faster pace) but I also wouldn't charge round outside our comfort speed zone just to try make a time and risk a silly run out or scary fall because of it.

As long as my horse and I come home clear and happy, then it's all good in my eyes. We're just doing it for fun.
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I've done alot of the hunter trials in scotland and they are all a bit hit or miss.

However, Craigie would be the closest to BE.....I **think** the 90cm Spring time at Craigie is 450mpm (which is intro speed) and the 90cm Autumn speed is 490mpm (which is actually faster than PN speed).
I'm guessing possibly you did the class below that - but i'd think the speed for it in Autumn would have been about 450mpm

The majority of hunter trials times are a LOT slower.

The only place to acurately gauge your speed is at a BE event = and even then some of the times are easier to get than others.

Basically, though, If you won at Craigie - you should have no worries about doing BE and getting the time fine
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thanks peeps-

that is really good to know! yes, it was the 75 i won at craigie and really enjoyed the pace:)

anyone know what the speed at gleneagles was?
 
I would agree with the unaff times being hit or a miss. Some places tend to favour slower rounds and others go for the closest to the time. Alot of unaff events say that they are ran under BE rules which would suggest using BE speeds for the according classes but im not sure if they actually do or not. I am with Figjam and I ride at the pace which I feel most comfortable.
 
I find BE times are faster. Generally you just go as fast as you can (assuming you're competing at the right level for you). I never struggled with Intro times when I started BE (from unaffil), however really did when I moved up to novice!
 
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