Hyoid bone problems - symptoms?

[Birker2020]

Asking this on behalf of someone who has a 8 yr old WB mare who is bridle lame in trot in a conventional bit but when she rides in a hackamore her horse appears to be fine. Her physio has suggested that there is a possibility that her mare may have a problem with a hyoid bone and will visit her shortly. I have found a couple of interesting articles when I researched this on line for her, and there appears to be a link between bridle lameness and compression of this bone.

Anyone had a problem with their horses hyoid bone and what was the outcome?

PLEASE no nasty comments this is nothing to do with my horse!!!!

 

[Goldenstar]

One of mine showed signs of hyoid pain when checked by my physio when I got him
He also had a very sore neck and put his tongue over the bit .
Long story but he had KS had six removed and the sore neck has now resolved as has the hyoid pain he still does a bit of tongue aerobics but it's drastically reduced
Wearing a gag for dentals can cause hydoid pain my horse with tooth / jaw issues has had trouble with this .
I have been taught how to a hyoid release by the physio which helps .
This horse now has danilon before and after dentals and is about to have some intensive physio on his head during his rest period .

 

[Birker2020]

Hmm interesting thanks. Will pass on to my mate.

 

[Lanky Loll]

Years ago I had one that was extremely fussy about his ears / head, looking back now (wonderful thing hindsight) it seems obvious that he had a hyoid problem. He'd been a rescue case before we had him and had been found tethered to a roundabout in Bristol!
He didn't present as lame but was very headshy and reacted badly to anything putting pressure on his poll.
Back then there were no Dyon or Fairfax bridles about so our answer was to put an extra full browband on him (he was a fine TBx 14.2) and make sure his bridle sat well back from his ears in about the same place as the Dyon bridles sit.
Made a massive difference to him, he settled into the contact and stopped most if not all of his bad behaviour. The next step if that hadn't worked was to take the bridle away completely and just use a bit and reins - something which Nicole Pavitt does with one of hers now and which one of my then trainers other pupils did with her horse back in the 90s

 

[Birker2020]

Years ago I had one that was extremely fussy about his ears / head, looking back now (wonderful thing hindsight) it seems obvious that he had a hyoid problem. He'd been a rescue case before we had him and had been found tethered to a roundabout in Bristol!
He didn't present as lame but was very headshy and reacted badly to anything putting pressure on his poll.
Back then there were no Dyon or Fairfax bridles about so our answer was to put an extra full browband on him (he was a fine TBx 14.2) and make sure his bridle sat well back from his ears in about the same place as the Dyon bridles sit.
Made a massive difference to him, he settled into the contact and stopped most if not all of his bad behaviour. The next step if that hadn't worked was to take the bridle away completely and just use a bit and reins - something which Nicole Pavitt does with one of hers now and which one of my then trainers other pupils did with her horse back in the 90s

Really sorry to be dim but how on earth does the bit stay in the mouth without anything holding it in?

I have never heard of a 'Dyon' bridle before either. Just found an image for those that are like me and have never seen one! : http://cdnll.doversaddlery.com/images/l/0012852.jpg

 

[Lanky Loll]

There's a lip strap I believe but mostly it's down to maintaining a contact.
Dyon's are fairly new - I haven't tried one but there was a thread on here about trialling one.

 

[Birker2020]

There's a lip strap I believe but mostly it's down to maintaining a contact.
Dyon's are fairly new - I haven't tried one but there was a thread on here about trialling one.

OMG (talking in general) I would maybe be brave enough to try one over a head collar if needed to but if it fell out of your horses mouth it could have serious consequences not least due to lack of brakes! How fascinating.

 

[Goldenstar]

Dy'on difference bridle can made an amazing difference to some horses .
My one with the jaw issues that caused hyoid pain in a round about way likes the micklem and loves the drop type noseband off the fairfax bridle .
I think there's somewhere where they medicate they hyoid bone with injections ( like you would an arthritic hock) I seem to remember the vet talking about this with me .
Mine with the KS's certainly got relief from physio but I have to keep on top of it.

 

[Goldenstar]

There's a lip strap I believe but mostly it's down to maintaining a contact.
Dyon's are fairly new - I haven't tried one but there was a thread on here about trialling one.

No free walk on a long rein with that set up .
I would love to try that with mine who puts the tongue over the bit ,not sure I am brave enough .

 

[ester]

There's a lip strap I believe but mostly it's down to maintaining a contact.
Dyon's are fairly new - I haven't tried one but there was a thread on here about trialling one.

Yup you use a curb strap, the stability I imagine depends a bit on the horse's mouth/lip conformation.

 

[Birker2020]

Like I have always said you never stop learning with horses.