I’ve reached a new low…

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

I have been reading experimental studies on sarcoid treatments because my life is that exciting, and I have come across one which purports to have 87% success rate across all types with a 7% recurrence rate. Sounds positive right?!

However, it’s licensed only for humans and to obtain said cream I would have to purchase online a 12 week course and I would have to claim to have warts of a.. sensitive nature…

Now prescription fraud isn’t exactly on my to-do list but I think it’s a damning fact about me that I considered it for a good hour. Selling ones dignity for a potential sarcoid ‘cure’ is a step too far isn’t it…?

(Just to cover my back - firmly said tongue in cheek, no law breaking happening here!)

 

[Abacus]

How did the experimental study get their results? Sounds dubious.. but if I were desperate for a cure, I might be setting up a new email address and admitting to any kind of ‘intimate’ problem…

 

[Lady Jane]

I would commit prescription fraud in this instance but I wouldn't risk using a product untested on horses. There are so many different types of sarcoids in horses and 'Liverpool cream' is not just one cream, there are several.
If I have msiunderstood the point of the post I do apologise!

 

[Lady Jane]

And in my exciting life, I have today created a spreadsheet analysis the componenets of balancers against the NRC 2007 recommendations. But I do enjoy that sort of thing....And my day was quite exciting, had a fab jump lesson this morning

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

screenshot from the study.. I’d have to have a chat with OH before having them posted at the very least!

25 horses, 164 tumours, 90-something tested I think from memory

 

[TPO]

And in my exciting life, I have today created a spreadsheet analysis the componenets of balancers against the NRC 2007 recommendations. But I do enjoy that sort of thing....And my day was quite exciting, had a fab jump lesson this morning

Would you mind sharing?

I'm not clever enough to manage that but I would like to reap the benefits [of someone else's hard work!]

 

[Barton Bounty]

Queue the forum police …..

Will be along shortly


Try it if you want? I use human stuff on BB

 

[Jambarissa]

And in my exciting life, I have today created a spreadsheet analysis the componenets of balancers against the NRC 2007 recommendations. But I do enjoy that sort of thing....And my day was quite exciting, had a fab jump lesson this morning

Ooooo, are you sharing your findings?

I have become confused. I was way ahead in the nutrition game in the 2000s, ringing round manufacturers asking if their minerals were chleated, and bing laughed at 'it would be far too expensive, no one would pay that'.

Now we appear to have Bioplex and various claims that actually ordinary oxides (or whatever) are better because the others have to be broken back down then used. I just can't find the time!

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Queue the forum police …..

Will be along shortly


Try it if you want? I use human stuff on BB

Hence the caveat at the end, I may or may not still be considering it.. secretly

 

[Jambarissa]

I used to use benzobenzoate for mites. The pharmacy would only sell it for genital lice. And obviously it came in quite a small bottle. The husband and I took turns having crabs...

 

[Barton Bounty]

I used to use benzobenzoate for mites. The pharmacy would only sell it for genital lice. And obviously it came in quite a small bottle. The husband and I took turns having crabs...

Omfg this is funny

 

[Jambarissa]

Have you trued speaking to your vet?

My horse has been on arthritis meds licensed for dogs up unto recently, when they licensed for horses and doubled the price and he'll no longer prescribe the dog one.

And various stuff licensed for cows over the years too.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Have you trued speaking to your vet?

My horse has been on arthritis meds licensed for dogs up unto recently, when they licensed for horses and doubled the price and he'll no longer prescribe the dog one.

And various stuff licensed for cows over the years too.

Oh I don’t know that I could face the conversation.. plus not sure vets can prescribe human medication.

 

[Snow Falcon]

My friend went into the pharmacy for benzyl benzoate too. Asked for the biggest bottle they had. She told me the pharmacist gave her a right odd look. She had no idea what the 'correct' useage was for. I nearly wet myself laughing when I told her. She was aghast-never been back to that particular pharmacy.

 

[Barton Bounty]

My friend went into the pharmacy for benzyl benzoate too. Asked for the biggest bottle they had. She told me the pharmacist gave her a right odd look. She had no idea what the 'correct' useage was for. I nearly wet myself laughing when I told her. She was aghast-never been back to that particular pharmacy.

Do they use that stuff for acne? Its pongy ?

 

[Snow Falcon]

Pubic lice

 

[marmalade76]

My friend went into the pharmacy for benzyl benzoate too. Asked for the biggest bottle they had. She told me the pharmacist gave her a right odd look. She had no idea what the 'correct' useage was for. I nearly wet myself laughing when I told her. She was aghast-never been back to that particular pharmacy.

I did that too I looked young for my age so reckon that's why I got away with it not brave enough now though.

 

[visa_bot]

When my dog needed some cancer / pain meds the vet didn’t have them in stock. He gave me a prescription and sent me a few doors down to Boots chemists, they took the veterinary prescription and dispensed the (human) drugs. I had no idea until then that could happen. It is worth speaking to the vet.

 

[wills_91]

Had a prescription for human inhaler for a horse, so it's possible. Also for thrush cream which was used on hot spot on a dog worked great.

 

[Red-1]

Rigs has a standard human asthma inhaler. I get the prescription and Rigsby has his own account at the pharmacy. No bother. Because the vet wrote a prescription, they are happy to dispense human meds.

 

[Britestar]

Oh I don’t know that I could face the conversation.. plus not sure vets can prescribe human medication.

They prescribed it "under the cascade", if there is no animal alternative.

 

[Lady Jane]

Ooooo, are you sharing your findings?

I have become confused. I was way ahead in the nutrition game in the 2000s, ringing round manufacturers asking if their minerals were chleated, and bing laughed at 'it would be far too expensive, no one would pay that'.

Now we appear to have Bioplex and various claims that actually ordinary oxides (or whatever) are better because the others have to be broken back down then used. I just can't find the time!

I have only looked at a couple. You need the NRC2007 recomendation (I can dig out for you later) then look at your balancer and calculate whether they have they are close to those values for the RDA. Dr David Marlin did a study (members only). I'm happy to do an analysis on what you use but won't be today. If the manufacturer does not supply sufficient info to calculate they are not legally compliant but VLA (or whatever they call trhemselves now) don't have capacity to follow these up. I confess that I don't go as far as cleated etc but it gives a good start. I am very much an amateur!

 

[Clodagh]

My friend went into the pharmacy for benzyl benzoate too. Asked for the biggest bottle they had. She told me the pharmacist gave her a right odd look. She had no idea what the 'correct' useage was for. I nearly wet myself laughing when I told her. She was aghast-never been back to that particular pharmacy.

You can get big bottles on line.
Just saying.

 

[ycbm]

I flipping well wish someone would do the clinical tests for sarcoids with copper sulphate, because my success rate with that over at least 30 of the damned things in the last 30 years has been 100% no recurrence. (In case you are tempted to try it, it does "burn" them out like Liverpool cream, not for the faint hearted.) Somebody needs to investigate the flour and salt cure too, far too many successes now just to write that off as a coincidence of timing with spontaneous regression.
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[Red-1]

You can get big bottles on line.
Just saying.

I thought you might, as a kid most tack rooms had a big bottle for sweet itch. Is that not the case now?

 

[Aperchristmas]

As a teenager my brother had to pretend to have piles because the cream is apparently the best thing for cracked lips on a horse, and my pony had some. It worked a treat but in hindsight I do feel sorry for him being the one who had to go to the pharmacy.

 

[Clodagh]

I thought you might, as a kid most tack rooms had a big bottle for sweet itch. Is that not the case now?

I’ve got a big bottle right now, not for sweet itch but scaly leg mite on chickens.

 

[Barton Bounty]

Pubic lice

@AShetlandBitMeOnce

Are you going to the chemist with an itchy crotch tomo

 

[elliejhb]

Imiquimond is licensed for genital or anal warts , so depends if you want that on your medical history

 

[expanding_horizon]

Imiquimond is licensed for genital or anal warts , so depends if you want that on your medical history

If it’s available over the counter it won’t be added to your medical record